rdtedm 0 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Villain is 46/22/1.75PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)UTG ($49.50)MP ($29.05)CO ($49.75)Hero ($74.40)SB ($53.65)BB ($46.35)Preflop: Hero is Button with , . 1 fold, MP calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.5, SB calls $2.25, 1 fold, MP folds.Flop: ($6) , , (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $3.5, SB calls $3.50.Turn: ($13) (2 players)SB checks, Hero checks.River: ($13) (2 players)SB bets $12Is this ever not the flush? Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Passively played weak ace sometimes.... only sometimes though. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 I often check the flop here. If he calls with a flush draw you're usually going to give a free card anyway, so why not give the free card now and charge him on the turn? You can also induce a bluff that way or you give yourself a chance to catch up if he has the ace.On the river I've stopped paying these off so much, but I think weak aces are part of his range. Probably pretty close either way. Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 0 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Is this ever not the flush?Yes. Because of the turn check Villian can bet a lot of hands there. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Is this ever not the flush?Looks like a naked baby flush draw that villain was ready to abandon, then got checked on the turn and hit. Don't check the turn next time. Still do call this, getting 2:1 with two purr. Link to post Share on other sites
TraptSteve 0 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Yes. Because of the turn check Villian can bet a lot of hands there.Right, but I think this is too big to a blocking bet with A-rag. Personally, this where table image comes into play... not as much yours as your read on the villain's. If he appears to be at all nitty, I believe we can muck here with relative ease. For the average unknown, the range I would assign would be :FlushA, Aces up (AQ could fit the action) , sets (AIR is highly improbable based on his OOP call both preflop & on the flop) Link to post Share on other sites
navybuttons 15 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Don't check the turn next time.there's no value in a turn bet. Link to post Share on other sites
Moneyball16 0 Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 Are we value betting a blank river? Link to post Share on other sites
Dictius 0 Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 there's no value in a turn bet.You don't think a flush draw is calling a turn bet? Link to post Share on other sites
AimHigher 0 Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Right, but I think this is too big to a blocking bet with A-rag. Personally, this where table image comes into play... not as much yours as your read on the villain's. If he appears to be at all nitty, I believe we can muck here with relative ease. For the average unknown, the range I would assign would be :FlushA, Aces up (AQ could fit the action) , sets (AIR is highly improbable based on his OOP call both preflop & on the flop)I think you can rule out sets purely on the basis that he has not attempted to get any value from his hand until the river. Line seems to fit AQ, KQ or a flush (and possibly JT). His VPIP is very high so his range here is definitely broad enough to include many suited connectors and maybe some gappers too.Some people are saying weak aces, I think that is wishful thinking unless opponent is very loose post-flop, but then so is JT. As someone stated it is too large to be a blocking bet and is a weak ace really betting pot on the river for value? I don't think so.I cannot really put his range on anything we beat despite the fact we are getting nearly 2:1 on a river call.Oops, Edit: -nearly. Link to post Share on other sites
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