serge 904 Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 Don't pretend Wilson wasn't fully on board with the decision. They phrased it how they did because they know everyone loves Burke and thinks Wilson is a little weener, so they couldn't position it as Wilson's decision. I guarantee Wilson was consulted, and at the very least, concurred with Burke's decision. I wouldn't be surprised if the whole damn thing was up to Wilson.I maybe in the minority, especially here, but I think Wilson is a great coach..Much like Burke he is a very loyal guy. I have a huge problem believing that Wilson initiated firing Tim Hunter whom he has worked for 14 years with in Toronto, San Jose and Washington. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Eh, like I said, I love this time of year too, but I also live to watch hockey games. I don't miss a Penguins regular season game if I can help it. I hate the people who say the season is too long (hear that Arp!!!). Anyways, I'm going to ribfest. LATER! Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I hate the people who say the season is too long (hear that Arp!!!). Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Just stop trying to take away my hockey! Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted June 23, 2011 Author Share Posted June 23, 2011 5 game homestand to open the year..Oct 6 vs Montreal followed byOttawaCalgaryColoradoWinnipeg.Good chance to start well again Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Im dissapointed the Leafs didnt land Carter or Richards. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted June 24, 2011 Author Share Posted June 24, 2011 Im dissapointed the Leafs didnt land Carter or Richards.If you believe the sources and they were credible, Flyers called Burke and wanted Kadri and Kulemin..Burke said we will think about it, Flyers never called back. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 If you believe the sources and they were credible, Flyers called Burke and wanted Kadri and Kulemin..Burke said we will think about it, Flyers never called back.I think they should have taken that in a second if it was for Richards.Id think about it a little harder for Carter, but Id probably say yes there too. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted June 24, 2011 Author Share Posted June 24, 2011 I think they should have taken that in a second if it was for Richards.Id think about it a little harder for Carter, but Id probably say yes there too.I dont know ..I think Kulemin is very talented and his numbers were similar to Richards last year..Sure Richards brings more to the table now but Kulemin has even more upside and is a bit younger and cheaper than Mike Richards.30 goal scorers dont grow on trees, he also plays a much more physical game than most people realize. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted June 24, 2011 Author Share Posted June 24, 2011 Why do you do this to me Eklund...I need to self ban myself from this..Can you imagine if this were true:On the Leafs...I am told to look out early tomorrow morning....the Leafs may pull the trigger on one of the biggest deals the team has ever seen. "Bigger than Phaneuf. Way bigger." I was told. The names to look for Parise, Stamkos, and believe it or not... Eric StaalStamkos I cant see , as Tampa surely would HAVE to match any offer..But Parise is a good posibility and Eric Staal would be so juicy. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 I dont know ..I think Kulemin is very talented and his numbers were similar to Richards last year..Sure Richards brings more to the table now but Kulemin has even more upside and is a bit younger and cheaper than Mike Richards.30 goal scorers dont grow on trees, he also plays a much more physical game than most people realize.Richards had a down year, while Kulemin had a career year. Richards had 30 goals and 80 points 2 seasons ago, and Kadri is a wild card. Kulemin could regress, but Richards is established. I'd have taken that deal in a second as well, and I actually really like Kulemin's game.Even then, I think they got a better deal getting Schenn from LA, and Simmonds, who is a really good 3rd liner. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Richards had a down year, while Kulemin had a career year. Richards had 30 goals and 80 points 2 seasons ago, and Kadri is a wild card. Kulemin could regress, but Richards is established. I'd have taken that deal in a second as well, and I actually really like Kulemin's game.Even then, I think they got a better deal getting Schenn from LA, and Simmonds, who is a really good 3rd liner.Looks like they got a pick too. If I'm Philly, I take LA's deal. If I'm Toronto, I pull the trigger. I'm guessing Philly felt the same way, since they didn't even wait to hear back on the Leafs deal before agreeing with LA.I would love if the Leafs got Eric Staal or even Parise, I just hope to god its not a Kessel-type deal, and that we can get a few years out of them. The reason Richards would have been great is that he's under contract until he's 50. Parise is an RFA. Staal is signed until 15/16 of course but 8.25 is a hefty cap hit. Won't even discuss Stamkos, that seems impossible.Kulemin's production is Stajan-like, maybe Versteeg-like - if we can get someone to value him as a 30-goal scorer, and Kadri still as equal to a top-10 pick, then we should go for it. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted June 24, 2011 Author Share Posted June 24, 2011 Looks like they got a pick too. If I'm Philly, I take LA's deal. If I'm Toronto, I pull the trigger. I'm guessing Philly felt the same way, since they didn't even wait to hear back on the Leafs deal before agreeing with LA.I would love if the Leafs got Eric Staal or even Parise, I just hope to god its not a Kessel-type deal, and that we can get a few years out of them. The reason Richards would have been great is that he's under contract until he's 50. Parise is an RFA. Staal is signed until 15/16 of course but 8.25 is a hefty cap hit. Won't even discuss Stamkos, that seems impossible.Kulemin's production is Stajan-like, maybe Versteeg-like - if we can get someone to value him as a 30-goal scorer, and Kadri still as equal to a top-10 pick, then we should go for it.I m not sure anyone who watches more than a handful of Leaf games can make this comment.Comparing Kulemin to Stajan is like comparing a 2010 Mercedes SLK to a 1998 Honda Civic..Not just a a 1998 Honda Civic but one that has a faulty transmission and a clutch that doesnt work from time to time.Kulemin is a solid NHL talent that plays a physical game. Matt Stajan is a stiff.sorry just my two cents. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Im gonna disagree with Kulemin being a 2010 Mercedes SLK of the NHL. I dont care how many games Ive watched, I know what I see. :)But ya, not exactly Stajan either. As for Staal, you guys can just knock that shit off right now, and stop reading Eklund like its gospel. Whats the rumoured Stastny deal? Kadri+? Link to post Share on other sites
Babying 613 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Im gonna disagree with Kulemin being a 2010 Mercedes SLK of the NHL. I dont care how many guys Ive watched, I know what I see. :)But ya, not exactly Stajan either. As for Staal, you guys can just knock that shit off right now, and stop reading Eklund like its gospel. Whats the rumoured Stastny deal? Kadri+?Arp is correct on this. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted June 24, 2011 Author Share Posted June 24, 2011 Im gonna disagree with Kulemin being a 2010 Mercedes SLK of the NHL. I dont care how many guys Ive watched, I know what I see. :)But ya, not exactly Stajan either. As for Staal, you guys can just knock that shit off right now, and stop reading Eklund like its gospel. Whats the rumoured Stastny deal? Kadri+?Lol I didnt say he was the Mercedes of the NHL, i made the comparison between Kulemin and Stajan...:)There are rumours on the HF board fueled by Eklund's craziness...Kadri plus might get it done..Also lot of stupidity with regards to a Kadri plus Schenn plus plus trade that would land Malkin,Stamkos or StaalYa i know it wont happen..BTW FWIW Eklund mentioned the Richards trade a good 6 hours before anyone had an inkling about it. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 BTW FWIW Eklund mentioned the Richards trade a good 6 hours before anyone had an inkling about it.One time, I called this guy with like bottom pair, and I won. Doesnt make me a good poker player worthy of my own site and thousands of followers.I give credit though, I did hear he was early on Richards after the fact. I think his strong suit is the Philly/NJ area (guess thats where he is?), so maybe thats where his connections lie. Thing is, as you know, he just throws so much shit on the wall, somethings gotta stick sooner or later. I still read his stuff, I just gotta keep reminding myself it aint real.I think you read it for same things I do, fun entertainment like the Enquirer version of the NHL. Thing is, as a Leafs fan, Ill bet you get a little more excited at the Leafs stuff than anything else. Only natural. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted June 24, 2011 Author Share Posted June 24, 2011 One time, I called this guy with like bottom pair, and I won. Doesnt make me a good poker player worthy of my own site and thousands of followers.I give credit though, I did hear he was early on Richards after the fact. I think his strong suit is the Philly/NJ area (guess thats where he is?), so maybe thats where his connections lie. Thing is, as you know, he just throws so much shit on the wall, somethings gotta stick sooner or later. I still read his stuff, I just gotta keep reminding myself it aint real.I think you read it for same things I do, fun entertainment like the Enquirer version of the NHL. Thing is, as a Leafs fan, Ill bet you get a little more excited at the Leafs stuff than anything else. Only natural.You are so right.Its so hard not to get excited when you hear shit like:Leafs about to make biggest trade in history.. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 You are so right.Its so hard not to get excited when you hear shit like:Leafs about to make biggest trade in history..I do the same thing with Carolina, or if it effects player I have in my pool. I quickly start checking more "legit" sources. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 I m not sure anyone who watches more than a handful of Leaf games can make this comment.Comparing Kulemin to Stajan is like comparing a 2010 Mercedes SLK to a 1998 Honda Civic..Not just a a 1998 Honda Civic but one that has a faulty transmission and a clutch that doesnt work from time to time.Kulemin is a solid NHL talent that plays a physical game. Matt Stajan is a stiff.sorry just my two cents.Kulemin is the better player of course, but Stajan looked pretty good on that top line and put up some points. I think most teams should consider themselves pleased if Kulemin is a decent 20-goal scorer on their second line. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted June 24, 2011 Author Share Posted June 24, 2011 Kulemin is the better player of course, but Stajan looked pretty good on that top line and put up some points. I think most teams should consider themselves pleased if Kulemin is a decent 20-goal scorer on their second line.You maybe right..I am really high on Kulemin..I actually he think he is the most talented forward on the team..Better than Kessel, better than Grabovski..I really hope Burke doesnt trade him, but if it will land a top 10 centre than ok.I wouldnt of loved the Kulemin and Kadri for Mike Richards trade.. Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 I think Kulemin is going to be a hell of a player, maybe even better than Richards some day. I still take 11 years of Mike Richards for him and Kadri though. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted June 24, 2011 Author Share Posted June 24, 2011 Interesting..Leafs add Rick Dudley to management team. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 I don't even know if Parise can be traded now. The Devils filed for arbitration for him so he will either sign a 1-year contract and become an unrestricted free agent next year or try to come to terms on a longer deal. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Interesting..Leafs add Rick Dudley to management team.He scored just as many goals as Tim Hunter and Keith Acton combined last season. Link to post Share on other sites
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