Poppy_Hillis 11 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 I haven't tried to play cash games online seriously in a few years, up until the last month or so, but it seems like there is hardly any action in the mid-level (100nl, 200nl, 500nl) NL games. The only people who buy-in for the full amount are the super tight multi-tabling nits, everyone folds to the blinds a very fair amount of the time, a couple people limp someone raises like 7x and everyone folds. It's a complete joke. Is this just coincidence that I've run into these tables non-stop for over a month, if not, how long has it been like this, because if it's always like this it's not really worth it when you can play in a live game full of action.I don't really read the NL forum much, so if this is one of those topics that pops up every week then disregard, but I didn't see anything. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 I haven't tried to play cash games online seriously in a few years, up until the last month or so, but it seems like there is hardly any action in the mid-level (100nl, 200nl, 500nl) NL games. The only people who buy-in for the full amount are the super tight multi-tabling nits, everyone folds to the blinds a very fair amount of the time, a couple people limp someone raises like 7x and everyone folds. It's a complete joke. Is this just coincidence that I've run into these tables non-stop for over a month, if not, how long has it been like this, because if it's always like this it's not really worth it when you can play in a live game full of action.I don't really read the NL forum much, so if this is one of those topics that pops up every week then disregard, but I didn't see anything.I feel the same way. I play HU tournies almost exclusively when I play online. People are forced to put chips in the middle at some point in time. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Learn to play at sites that aren't Stars or FTP. Link to post Share on other sites
Poppy_Hillis 11 Posted August 20, 2007 Author Share Posted August 20, 2007 Learn to play at sites that aren't Stars or FTP.What would you suggest? Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 What would you suggest?AP, seriously though Stars and FTP have donkeys. I have recently started playing one table at a time and people have huge flaws in thier game. Mostly to tight. If people are really tight just three bet them and take it away on the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 What would you suggest?playing live. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 What would you suggest?I play HU tournies almost exclusively when I play online. People are forced to put chips in the middle at some point in time. Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Play 6 seaters online if you aren't already. This forces more action. People are playing tighter but they are still exploitable. Obv live is much much weaker, but at some point they will catch on and you'll need to know how to exploit tighties. Plus online is a much more convenient and profitable means for some people. No casino near home, many more hands played, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Isn't ultimate-bet meant to be one of the higher stakes orientated poker rooms? Link to post Share on other sites
coremiller 0 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Whoever suggested playing 6-max is exactly right. There's a much higher penalty for playing ultra-tight, good laggy play is rewarded even more than usual, etc. Plus, 6-max gives the good players an even bigger edge, because the nature of the game forces you and your opponents into more marginal and difficult situations, where the bad players are more likely to make mistakes. At full ring they could avoid these mistakes just by playing very few hands. They can't get away with that at 6-max. Link to post Share on other sites
Poppy_Hillis 11 Posted August 20, 2007 Author Share Posted August 20, 2007 playing live.That's what I usually do, or did, but I don't live by a casino or poker room anymore. Link to post Share on other sites
Poppy_Hillis 11 Posted August 20, 2007 Author Share Posted August 20, 2007 Play 6 seaters online if you aren't already. This forces more action.This is exactly what I was going to do. They need to make cash games with antes. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 They need to make cash games with antes.why? Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 It seems to me that playing 6-max just makes my loose opponents' preflop play more correct. They might overplay ATo 7 off the button in 10-max. They don't have that opportunity in 6-max.I like to play short-handed live with a time charge, but that's a different animal. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 It seems to me that playing 6-max just makes my loose opponents' preflop play more correct. They might overplay ATo 7 off the button in 10-max. They don't have that opportunity in 6-max.preflop maybe but post flop people spew so bad it is incredible. I think people either don't adjust enough or over adjust to 6 max play.I think low limit 6 max games online are soft IMHO Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 preflop maybe but post flop people spew so bad it is incredible. I think people either don't adjust enough or over adjust to 6 max play.I think low limit 6 max games online are soft IMHODo you think that's because the gamblers gravitate to those games? Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 why?It's good for the game. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Do you think that's because the gamblers gravitate to those games?that could be it for sure, I have found sooo many fish (granted this is 25NL and 50NL) that play at a 73/24/7 or play 15/2/1 and can be run over... Also 6 max it is much easier to isolate the donkey. Link to post Share on other sites
pokerinc 0 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I can't even play full ring on bodog anymore. It's drying up far too much. 6 max is still a very good way to book wins against soft opponents. Guys are stacking off w/ k7 sooted etc... It's higher variance and there's still a lot of annoying short stackers but it's good money all the same.God I wish a site would come out w/ mandatory max buy tables. How sweet would that be. Let me play a whole table of people w/ god damn chips to take. If someone knows a site like this w/ traffic please pm it to me, I'll sign up and get you a rakeback referral or whatever. Link to post Share on other sites
Poppy_Hillis 11 Posted August 23, 2007 Author Share Posted August 23, 2007 I can't even play full ring on bodog anymore. It's drying up far too much. 6 max is still a very good way to book wins against soft opponents. Guys are stacking off w/ k7 sooted etc... It's higher variance and there's still a lot of annoying short stackers but it's good money all the same.God I wish a site would come out w/ mandatory max buy tables. How sweet would that be. Let me play a whole table of people w/ god damn chips to take. If someone knows a site like this w/ traffic please pm it to me, I'll sign up and get you a rakeback referral or whatever.Yes, a 100bb min req buy-in, with antes. Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Yes, a 100bb min req buy-inNot big on the antes, but I think a 100min/200max BB rule would be great.I hate shortys who have $5 on a $25 table. I'm risking MY $25 to win YOUR $5? No thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
StupidKid 0 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I can't even play full ring on bodog anymore. It's drying up far too much. 6 max is still a very good way to book wins against soft opponents. Guys are stacking off w/ k7 sooted etc... It's higher variance and there's still a lot of annoying short stackers but it's good money all the same.God I wish a site would come out w/ mandatory max buy tables. How sweet would that be. Let me play a whole table of people w/ god damn chips to take. If someone knows a site like this w/ traffic please pm it to me, I'll sign up and get you a rakeback referral or whatever.Full tilt have 6max and full ring deep tables. Min buy 100bb, max buyin 200bb. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Not big on the antes, but I think a 100min/200max BB rule would be great.I hate shortys who have $5 on a $25 table. I'm risking MY $25 to win YOUR $5? No thanks.If he only has $5 dollars you actually aren't risking $25 you are only risking $5 DUCY? Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 ugh, just played some online cash games the last day, sooo sucks. i hate online poker.1/2NL cash game. fold fold fold fold, limp, button raise to 6. fold fold, limper fold.this goes on for hours. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 ugh, just played some online cash games the last day, sooo sucks. i hate online poker.1/2NL cash game. fold fold fold fold, limp, button raise to 6. fold fold, limper fold.this goes on for hours.You forgot to mention that they all think they're "good" at poker. Link to post Share on other sites
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