sfroind 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Hello.Something i have read in a stupid bets site but i am wondering about it, does suit really matter? what is the law concerning this issue and does it have a difference in ring games and tournaments?"My poker buddy says that in tournaments, if 2 players both have the same hand then they will both get the same share of the pot. I know for a FACT that this is not true and a "hearts" suit will always rank higher! And I'm going to prove my friend that SUITS MATTER right here!" (this is the quote from the site: betsgowild.com)Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 do you mean if a hand is suited or not orif hearts rank higher than clubs rank higher than spades, etc? Link to post Share on other sites
Moneyball16 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 You know that in limit holdem its impossible for a heart flush to be up against a spade flush, right? Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 You know that in limit holdem its impossible for a heart flush to be up against a spade flush, right?yeah, thats for the no limit donks Link to post Share on other sites
sfroind 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Author Share Posted July 4, 2007 do you mean if a hand is suited or not orif hearts rank higher than clubs rank higher than spades, etc?At first i seen this thing i said "what the hell?" but then i was not sure so just for checking.this is what i mean to ask: if hearts rank higher than clubs rank higher than spades, etc?I know it sound stupid but i never tought about it and i know some ppl do play with ranked suit. Link to post Share on other sites
Huskers12 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 It cant happen in no limit either....limit/no limit does not change how many cards come out. The answer to the question is in most games, no suit does not matter. A hand is decided by high card an dif the two hands are identical (except suit) they tie and the pot is split. There are certain games where suits matter such as when drawing for a high card, the "suits matter: rule can be on if both players agree. The order of suit rank is SPADES, HEARTS, DIAMONDS, CLUBS. (it is in resverse alphabetical order if you cant remember it). In casinos when they deal to see who gets the button or who gets the chip during a race off of smaller valued chips, they will go by suit rank. Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 It cant happen in no limit either....limit/no limit does not change how many cards come out.oooohhhh so we gotta go to the omaha forum? Link to post Share on other sites
sfroind 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Author Share Posted July 4, 2007 It cant happen in no limit either....limit/no limit does not change how many cards come out. The answer to the question is in most games, no suit does not matter. A hand is decided by high card an dif the two hands are identical (except suit) they tie and the pot is split. There are certain games where suits matter such as when drawing for a high card, the "suits matter: rule can be on if both players agree. The order of suit rank is SPADES, HEARTS, DIAMONDS, CLUBS. (it is in resverse alphabetical order if you cant remember it). In casinos when they deal to see who gets the button or who gets the chip during a race off of smaller valued chips, they will go by suit rank.Cheers Huskers12.Dont know why i have seen this question there and i wonderd, maybe it is becouse i used to play a lot of spades (Wist) and there the suit is what calles.Thanks again. Link to post Share on other sites
Moneyball16 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 oooohhhh so we gotta go to the omaha forum?lol, your an *** Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 lol, your an *** thats the best compliment ive had in 2 monthsseriously Link to post Share on other sites
sfroind 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Author Share Posted July 4, 2007 oooohhhh so we gotta go to the omaha forum? lol, your an *** thats the best compliment ive had in 2 monthsseriously I know I am going to sound stupid but can someone explain the joke??? Link to post Share on other sites
Brisco 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 They are referring to the fact that is it statistically more likely make a Heart flush than a spade flush, but everybody knows that. Link to post Share on other sites
khabbi 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 In poker, suits don't matter.I have to commend the variety of amazing (sarcastic) replies in this thread alone though. I'm pretty sure the OP is much more clear on things now. I especially love the limit hold'em vs no-limit hold'em discussion surrounding the possibility of conflicting flushes... classic. Link to post Share on other sites
KramitDaToad 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 The only financial implication for suits in poker that I can think of is the bring-in stud games.Eg if 2 Kings are showing for door cards in Razz the 'highest' king based on the order mentioned above has the forced bring-in Link to post Share on other sites
KramitDaToad 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 I know I am going to sound stupid but can someone explain the joke??? You can't get 2 flushes of different suits in Omaha either Link to post Share on other sites
khabbi 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 The only financial implication for suits in poker that I can think of is the bring-in stud games.Eg if 2 Kings are showing for door cards in Razz the 'highest' king based on the order mentioned above has the forced bring-inSuits are also used in poke to break ties in chip races when coloring up. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 It matters in Stud, no?If you had the AKQJ9 flush in spades, would you win the pot over the AKQJ9 flush in diamonds?I'm pretty sure spades are the highest ranking suit... or is it just a chop here? Link to post Share on other sites
Killrus 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 spades is the highest. they use that to determine who brings in when two or more people get cards of the same rank as their upcard.So in stud, as unlikely as the hand above mentioned would occur,,I believe spades flush would win.he and omaha dont matter obviously. Link to post Share on other sites
fopkins 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 What? Are you serious?No.Suit's don't determine who wins the pot, ever. The only thing that suit is used for is determining who brings it in.Also, in tournaments, suit is often used to determine deal before play begins. Link to post Share on other sites
Frez 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Suit's don't determine who wins the pot, ever. The only thing that suit is used for is determining who brings it in.Bring in's are the only part of playing a poker hand where suits matter. Link to post Share on other sites
mlholtzman 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 OP-- so there is absolutely no confusion: SUITS DON'T DETERMINE THE WINNER OF A HAND IN POKER. EVER. My spade royal flush and your heart royal flush will tie every time, in every game. It is true that in flop games like holdem and omaha, there can only be one possible flush on board, so this situation will never arise, but it does happen in stud games, and it's a tie. Suits matter only for the purpose of determining who has the 'bring-in bet' in stud games, and in tournaments, during the racing off of chips (some casinos, like the Borgata in AC, also use the high card, by suit, for determining who gets an odd chip in a split pot. Others use a players position relative to the dealer) Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 What? Are you serious?No.Suit's don't determine who wins the pot, ever. The only thing that suit is used for is determining who brings it in.Also, in tournaments, suit is often used to determine deal before play begins.That's why I asked the question, douchebag. Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Suits are also used in poke i love this game. its my favorite Link to post Share on other sites
fopkins 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 That's why I asked the question, douchebag.That hurts. Link to post Share on other sites
Dogpatch 2 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 They are referring to the fact that is it statistically more likely make a Heart flush than a spade flush, but everybody knows that.It just keeps getting better!!! But what about Pineapple?It matters in Stud, no?If you had the AKQJ9 flush in spades, would you win the pot over the AKQJ9 flush in diamonds?I'm pretty sure spades are the highest ranking suit... or is it just a chop here?It's a chop. As stated over and over above... suits only matter for the bring in and chip races. They never determine the outcome of a hand. Link to post Share on other sites
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