silicon 0 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Is this the future of online poker? I think so.http://venturebeat.com/2007/06/14/heycosmo...-em/#more-19322My thoughts:PRO1. This will be a neat application with potential for wide adoption.2. Full Tilt should licence this. Imagine playing against Phil Ivey and having him stare you down. 3. An interesting feature allows spectators. I could see myself paying $5 to watch a final table on Stars featuring DN.4. Elimination of bots and to some extent collusion issues.5. Tourney like the Neg-O would become even more enjoyable being able to put faces and voices to online friends.6. MAY be less intimidating for newbie players. 7. Provides the addition of visual and auditory information which you would expect to give the more experienced and talented player additional edges.CON1. Tough to build a poker site from the ground up - think FCP. This company's best chance of success is to licence the underlying technology to Full Tilt or Stars and ask for a royalty on rake and ancillary revenues. (i.e. admission fees to watch prestige events)2. You need a webcam and broadband. Many people have them I know but there are still lots of people on dial up.3. Latency could be an issue but the propellor heads usually fix issues like this.4. MAY be more intimidating for newbie players.5. Multi tabling would be more difficult but then again I don't multi table now so that may only be my impression. It may prove beneficial for people who multi table. I expect that the addition of visual and audio tells may make their job easier.4. Bandwidth and server cost as the poker site would be proportionally higher possibly forcing the site to collect a higher rake. I expect though that their margins are such that they could absorb the hit if it allowed them to grow the overall market.What do you guys think?I say that Bob aka FCP Info starts work at PokerStars as the VP of Visual Gaming and rolls out webcam poker on the Stars network. I would play. I'd even go work for them!Silicon Link to post Share on other sites
Heels930 0 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 CONA boatload of people (including me probly) would be sitting there completely naked intending on throwing you off Link to post Share on other sites
profxavier9 0 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Its a great idea but it will never take-off. Say the site allows you t turn off the image of yourself, no one in there right mind would ever turn it on, why give out possible tells if you dont have too. Link to post Share on other sites
rogerwilco 0 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 I don't know if it is "the future of online poker", but I'm almost certain, the games on a site like that will be extremely juicy. :Dedit: if they planned to allow playing for real money that is... Link to post Share on other sites
silicon 0 Posted June 15, 2007 Author Share Posted June 15, 2007 Its a great idea but it will never take-off. Say the site allows you t turn off the image of yourself, no one in there right mind would ever turn it on, why give out possible tells if you dont have too.Interesting point. However poker, while a cuthroat game, is curiously a game where etiquette tends to be demanded. Think of the last time you were at a casino and someone tried to throw in a string bet. Half the guys at the table, even those not in the hand, will jump all over the offender.I expect that the poker site could make it mandatory that you maintain a certain image quality of yourself. If you agree to play on the visual poker engine then you also agree to respect the visual poker etiquette. Abuser could be freely flamed and reported to support.Then again not everyone who plays is playing to make money. Anecdotally it would seem that most people are doing it for the enjoyment of the game and the thrill of competition. Making it more fun and interactive (if -EV) would keep them pumping money into the system. Link to post Share on other sites
Startled 0 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 I read the article, and offhand, I'd say their poker software needs a bit of help. While I commend them on thier ability to attract hotties to the poker table (see pic), the board two JS and two Qs on, and the lucky SOB whose cards we see has made 4 royal flushes in ONE HAND. Link to post Share on other sites
Dogpatch 2 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Well, when someone is multitabling though... they would be reacting to a different hand than the one you think they're reacting to. Whoa. Level 6 thinking. I think he thinks that I think he's reacting to a hand on a different table. Link to post Share on other sites
Dogpatch 2 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Interesting point. However poker, while a cuthroat game, is curiously a game where etiquette tends to be demanded. Think of the last time you were at a casino and someone tried to throw in a string bet. Half the guys at the table, even those not in the hand, will jump all over the offender.I expect that the poker site could make it mandatory that you maintain a certain image quality of yourself. If you agree to play on the visual poker engine then you also agree to respect the visual poker etiquette. Abuser could be freely flamed and reported to support.That was my take as well. Make it mandatory to have video to play on those tables. And maintain non-visual tables for the people who don't want to do it. Link to post Share on other sites
profxavier9 0 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Well, when someone is multitabling though... they would be reacting to a different hand than the one you think they're reacting to. Whoa. Level 6 thinking. I think he thinks that I think he's reacting to a hand on a different table.lol thats a good one i didnt think about that. Link to post Share on other sites
Flushgarden 0 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Interesting board... Link to post Share on other sites
T-Dot-poker 0 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 A very cool and interesting idea...but I don't know about "the future of online poker". Just as someone else had mentioned....I don't think that people would want to give away any unecessary tells. Especially since that is one of the biggest differences between online poker and live poker. People like to be able to play in their underwear, while they're eating...and I think that this would take a lot of the comfort and convenience associated with online poker away. However...Mobile poker on the other hand is really going to change things. Anyone heard of it? Link to post Share on other sites
kd_pkr 0 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 it's over, 9-year boys, they got ya Link to post Share on other sites
a__thekevlar__2 0 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 meh, i think theres something similar to this already, it wont work. only ppl that would probably enjoy playing this is ppl who play small limits that "want to play REAL poker and read people's eyes"also. lol @ the amount of girls playing in that pic. Link to post Share on other sites
ShaneO19 0 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 I though of this exact same idea as soon as I started playing online poker. I no later realized that it would never work. Theres no way of enforcing what people can do or say in the webcams. There are a lot of fights now just using chat boxes, imagine the fights there would be if you could actually see the person. Great idea in theory but will probably never work. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Incredibly stupid idea. Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 It would also be fairly easy to pipe in a prerecorded feed to generate a pretty sick poker face. Link to post Share on other sites
fatman 1 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Imagine all the rail tards telling all the girls to show thier tits. That would get old really quick....that is until you found someone to actually do it. Link to post Share on other sites
dfkdfk 0 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Honestly I don't see the point of this software... aside from novelty reasons. looking for tells? seriously? Honestly I think it would be a little "too much information" - its bad enough seeing the supposed picture of some of these people in the form of an avatar (so many fugly *** avatars on PS... thank god you can disable them)... a video feed would be too much for me to handle (and I'm no brad pit I'm sure people wouldnt enjoy staring at my mug while debating a call). Plus the obvious technical restrictions (8 live video feeds + multiple tables. with a crappy computer or connection this could really put things over the edge). Mb this would work in a few years when everyone has fiber optic connections and whatnot but right now I'm not feelin it. Link to post Share on other sites
DonJ 0 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 (and I'm no brad pit I'm sure people wouldnt enjoy staring at my **** while debating a call). Link to post Share on other sites
rog 0 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 It would be a waste of network bandwidth. The only people who would be interested are lonely guys who play a lot of poker online and don't meet many real women traveling between the fridge and the futon. Link to post Share on other sites
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