foxwoods

[elkang 0]

I'm going to Foxwoods since I have business in CT (it's a jazz weekend).I hate the low buy in NL, but I think I will play anyway to work on my short stack cash game - yes I know this is kinda a stupid thing - but I feel all these skills will somehow make me a better player. In this case, I imagine the short stack game will be like some tournament play.So, I'm looking forward to developing reads and pushing at the flop and getting lucky. I might play limit too. I'm going to check out some threads and figure this out.

[DiverDown4 0]

The Foxwoods 10-20 limit game regularly see's 6-8 on the flop.

[IntheGreenMist 0]

Theyve added a new no limit game in addition to the 1-2 $100 max game. Its a 2-4 game where the buy in is $300 straight. Havent played in it yet but i hear its better than the 1-2. They've changed some rules also just so you're aware. If you have cash on the table behind your chips whether from a re-buy or from changing another player's money or whatever, it can only be in $100 bills. Nothing else will play. Also from what I hear the 2-4, 4-8, and 5-10 limit tables are all overrun.I wish they spread 2-7 single draw.

[mbreon 0]

Make sure to get some advice from FoxWoodsPro. He is currently killing the 5/10 and 10/20 games for a living.

[CaneBrain 95]

The Foxwoods 10-20 limit game regularly see's 6-8 on the flop.

10-20 is loose as this guy says...much easier than the 10/20 game at the borgata

[yeffy 0]

I don't know how high you play but they have a 20-40 HOE rotation game that is awesome.

[PVeLLi 0]

The NL 2/4 300 Max/Min buy in game is easy money. People go in with complete garbage, expecting god know's what, just be patient and you should be able to double up easily and run over the table. Another thing. Right now the restauraunt next to the poker room is closed, which means waitresses can't bring u food like normal, WHICH SUX, so u gotta get up and get it downstairs. That is unless they fixed it up this week.good luck.

[elkang 0]

I'm not game ready for 10-20 Limit. Cash bankroll and mentally. But, maybe I will take a hit to explore. $500 gives me 25 BBs. I can play til I hit 10 BBs. Then I have to run to New Haven. I can afford to take a $500 hit no problem. So, I can play the game as best as I can. What do you think -- is this a worthy play as my first live 10-20 excusion? I have played 10-20 online before with satisfactory results. I am a winning player at $2-4/$3-6 but sadly do not have 10K hands - just in the small stakes just micro (.50-$1/$1-2) 40K+ hands.What is my risk/reward here? I don't have a lot of time to play either and I got to play NL in AC yesterday - so some live limit sounds good. I need to break from online.

[elkang 0]

I don't know how high you play but they have a 20-40 HOE rotation game that is awesome.

I wish I could play HOE. Come help me when my bankroll hits 100K (yes, I am that conservative) and my skill set online is "good". Limit and NL are my only games that I am a solid winning player at my levels.Stud is a hard game and I need to play more online and really work on my memory skills. WHn I can play stud well I will consider myself a real poker player (not a pro but a player).

[elkang 0]

The NL 2/4 300 Max/Min buy in game is easy money. People go in with complete garbage, expecting god know's what, just be patient and you should be able to double up easily and run over the table. Another thing. Right now the restauraunt next to the poker room is closed, which means waitresses can't bring u food like normal, WHICH SUX, so u gotta get up and get it downstairs. That is unless they fixed it up this week.good luck.

thanks for the info. I haven't been to Foxwoods since last year. hmm... I think I will just do that and bring $500 for $300 buy in and $200 rebuy if I get hit. But, this is old hat. Nothing wrong with an old hat though if its good.So, either that or my first 10-20 live experience. Next time I could add a poll and dictate my playing like reality tv. j.k.

[Royal27 0]

Make sure to get some advice from FoxWoodsPro. He is currently killing the 5/10 and 10/20 games for a living.

Don't forget, he's killing the game but somehow only making a decent profit!

[Shan027 0]

Elkang, if you het there in the early morning hours during the week, there's always a tourney ($60 + $20 or $80 + 20). Good time . . . low stakes . . . pretty soft. As always, may your cards be live and your pots be monsters. Lol.

[GTKID 0]

I'm in CT for the summer for an internship but alas I am 18... Isnt there a casino in Montreal or something?

[Shan027 0]

GTKID, where in CT are you? Always plenty of home games & bar tourneys in the area. Not worth driving to Canada from CT, IMO.

[doudave 0]

that is a great game over there if your patient, i have played in it a couple of times, the first time i was up like $1500 at some point and the second i eneded up leaving with $500, dont even waste your time with the 1/2 cause its a grind, 2/4 is much better.

[nicksite 0]

I'm in CT for the summer for an internship but alas I am 18... Isnt there a casino in Montreal or something?

I'm pretty sure the Turning Stone in upstate New York allows 18-year-olds.

[DJ_Chaps 0]

I will be heading to Conn. and hitting up Foxwoods in September for the long weekend. Super stoked.

[akishore 0]

elkang,shorstack NL cash game strategy is my specialty. PM me and i'll give you more information than you could imagine. i'm assuming you don't have time to read before you go, but if you do, the bulk of my information is in eddie miller's godly new book, "getting started in hold 'em". in it, he presents a virtually unexploitable shortstack NL cash game strategy that i base mine on. PM me or IM me if you have AIM (akishore2001).good luck,aseem

[elkang 0]

Aseem - I ordered "eddie miller's godly new book" book already due to your recommendation. Thanks again. I will expect to be recommending it to many other people in coming days after I go through it - I hope it will enlighten and correct my game.I wound up playing the $2/4 ($300 max) NL game at Foxwoods (Table #36) and had a fantastic time. I took extensive voice notes after the session (40 hands - 80 minutes) and came out $75 Net. I gave about $20 in tips and $12 in time. I felt I played a perfect or near perfect game - which meant I was lucky - but would like to see a review of my session - perhaps it will help others or can correct my unknown mistakes. But, the biggest strength was that I was able to narrow down hand easily and often correctly picked the equvalent or exact cards someone had - and I felt I knew what people thought were my holdings. Again luck, but I hope skill. Out of the 40 hands, I was dealt and played the following AJs, AJx, KQc, 66, AQ, 88, KQx, 6Tx, 59x and maybe 3-6 others that were folded early. The avg. raise seemed about $15-20 and I encouraged more cheap flops (got them). At some point I should perhaps describe the action and table banter for the entire sesssion - if I can communicate it in an interesting and helpful way. I had such a blast and once loudly proclaimed that I wasn't playing for money and even pushed back $10 to a player. He laughed and refused and I gave it to the dealer instead. I was very chatty and aggressively pursuing reactions and information. This of course annoyed some but no one really went on tilt - one person possibly too an hour break (after bad laydown). As typical in a casino, most players do not play online and do not find it as lucrative. I was playing live poker because I wanted to play live poker - making money was quite secondary.Afterwards, I went to see ajazz trio for this CT weekend event and danced til 5AM. I got home around 8 AM and woke an hour ago.

[elkang 0]

I did not find the $2/4 ($300) game to be that soft. The other $2/4 table did not seem better. I've seen MUCH MUCH softer and easier to read all over. No idiots at the table and 6 of the players were your standard tight aggressive basic NL players with no obvious physical tells. So, I go by betting patterns and pushing reactions.I call a game soft when they make lots of glaring mistakes, go easily on tilt and virtually tell me the strength of their hand.I picked the NL game because it was already open, but next time I will check out the 10-20 at Foxwoods. Maybe Raymer will be around (instead of kickin' at WSOP) and I won't be a bother.Lastly, does anyone have a BB/100 calculator online somwhere? And I know PT doubles the BB for NL BB/100 calculations and wanted full verification that this was the norm for live play.

[akishore 0]

elkang,congrats on the session, it sounded like fun.it's good that you ordered the book. it seems like a beginner's book on the outside, but i can guarantee that it will make you rethink many aspects of the game and put so many principles into solid context. overall, expect it to take your game to a new level, surprisingly.i wouldn't mind reviewing your session. if you have the notes of all/some/any of your hands, feel free to type them up and PM them to me (or email it, PM me if you want my email address). or, you could scan them and send me the images, i don't mind.as for BB/100, i would go by BB/hr for live games instead. it's hard to keep a count of how many hands you see, and it's much easier to just keep a tally of where you are at every hour. you can approximate about 30 hands/hr if you want to approximate a BB/100. personally, for NL, i keep my records in bb/hr, which means i don't divide by 2 as PT does apparently (i'm not even sure about that).i am new to the casino scene, but i have been playing $1/2 NL at a local casino recently (a somewhat soft game usually--about two fish on average who see a lot of flops and play very passively and predictably, about two LAGs on average, and the rest of the table basically tight/average or tight/passive). anyway, over 11 hours of $1/2 NL, i am beating the game for about $25/hr, or 12 bb/100 (which would be 6 BB/100 if you use the PT method).by the way, i am a huge jazz fan. i play jazz trombone in a big band as well as in a jazz quintet, and i also write charts for both groups. i checked out the link you posted, seemed like fun. i was in NYC in april for my birthday, and my girlfriend treated me to the blue note. it was my first time there, and it was a lot of fun. if we ever meet up, we'll be sure to check out a jazz club wherever we are. :-) nice job again. live poker is a lot of fun, way different from online, and the people aspect makes it a completely different experience, as you've said. i'm planning a trip to turning stone (syracuse) with a friend from harvard (who, coincidentally, lives near NYC in long island) on the weekend of july 9th. if you're free, let me know, maybe we could meet up there.good luck,aseem

[elkang 0]

...by the way, i am a huge jazz fan. i play jazz trombone in a big band as well as in a jazz quintet, and i also write charts for both groups. i checked out the link you posted, seemed like fun. i was in NYC in april for my birthday, and my girlfriend treated me to the blue note. it was my first time there, and it was a lot of fun. if we ever meet up, we'll be sure to check out a jazz club wherever we are. :-) nice job again. live poker is a lot of fun, way different from online, and the people aspect makes it a completely different experience, as you've said. i'm planning a trip to turning stone (syracuse) with a friend from harvard (who, coincidentally, lives near NYC in long island) on the weekend of july 9th. if you're free, let me know, maybe we could meet up there.good luck,aseem

Excellent. Thanks. I think we will get along great. I am involved with the jazz scene in NYC (which is fantastically huge!) for many years now. I'm a jazz DJ (for dancers) too and am DJing at Irving Plaza tonight - yeah really cool venue, but the event isn't all that - it used to be a 1000+ weekly event (during the boom), and now its a 500+ monthly event. If this happens to poker I will be sad but resigned. I used to travel extensively for it but have been busy - I'll be doing more now due to poker and will try to combine these two loves as much as possible. There's something about poker and jazz too - and one day I want to write a great article on it and its origins in New Orleans. I am frankly surprised that there is not an even stronger connection between the two scenes considering they came out of the same primordial soup.Meanwhile, I will be at the WSOP from July 6th-17th. Sorry! Consider coming out in Oct for a weekend that will involve jazz and poker. I'm PM you details later.