sactownjoey 0 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Multitabling so no real reads, no stats. Villain seems competent over about an hour's worth of play. I c-bet a lot, about 90% of the time. I've leaked a bit in calling too many hands so he may notice that if he's paying attention. After he calls the 3-bet pf, I'm putting him on 1010+ and AK. Obviously I'm only really worried about AA given what I know so what's the best way to get value...I think I sometimes lose value on these hands because I get too anxious on a dry board and give a villain with a marginal hand a reason to fold...PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comUTG+1 ($10)Hero (MP1) ($13.05)MP2 ($2)CO ($6.40)Button ($7.90)SB ($18.25)BB ($1.90)UTG ($13.15)Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K , K UTG raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1, 5 folds, UTG calls $0.70Flop: ($2.15) 3 , 4 , 3 (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $1.70, UTG calls $1.70Turn: ($5.55) 9 (2 players)UTG bets $3, Hero ?With villain's c/c on the flop and donk bet on the turn, IMO this is either AA looking for value or something else trying to figure out where they are. What's the best play? Link to post Share on other sites
Viticus 0 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 you either decide to push here or the river. a 3-bet doesnt leave you a pot size bet on the river and definitely commits you anyway. I think i like it here because of the flush and straight draws. plus, if your range on him is correct he wont fold on a shove here anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 yaaaaaaaaaa, I prob just stick it, but I don't hate call/call (or call/shove if he bets tiny). Link to post Share on other sites
pokerinc 0 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 never ever a fold. Flatting and getting it in on the river's cool. Shoving's good. It's all good here. Link to post Share on other sites
albertoflamingo 0 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Hmm, why are we thinking this is AA a lot? It seems far more likely that villain shows up with TT or JJ here given pf action. As played, I'd just stick it in on the turn to get actions from specified hands before a scare card hits the river. Link to post Share on other sites
AcesUp46 0 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Yeah, jamming the turn seems right. Overpairs are a huge part of his range and you crush that. Stick it in! Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I shove on the turn, I don't like waiting. Make draws pay. Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Easy turn shove, sucks when you lose to Krablar though Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 What's the best play?If they called a 10xBB PF raise (?!?!?), I'm AT LEAST potting the flop. Especially a paired, 4 high flop because it is just that less likely that a set hit AND, and .... and, we get a TON and I mean A TON of overpairs coming with us for a very high price. If the table texture is really actioney, I'm going to overbet the pot. If it's aces, OK. If it's quads or fours, OK. If he's calling 10BB PF with 33 44, I'm noting it. We need to move chips along here, and the PF action says the villain will oblige. Link to post Share on other sites
Merby 3 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 If they called a 10xBB PF raise (?!?!?), I'm AT LEAST potting the flop. Especially a paired, 4 high flop because it is just that less likely that a set hit AND, and .... and, we get a TON and I mean A TON of overpairs coming with us for a very high price. If the table texture is really actioney, I'm going to overbet the pot. If it's aces, OK. If it's quads or fours, OK. If he's calling 10BB PF with 33 44, I'm noting it. We need to move chips along here, and the PF action says the villain will oblige.UTG raised to 3xBB and hero 3-bet to 10xBB, which seems perfectly fine to me.Like Zach said, I would shove turn, although I don't have hate call/call or call/shove Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 ya, I type bad Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 UTG raised to 3xBB and hero 3-bet to 10xBB, which seems perfectly fine to me.I'm saying UTG shouldn't be in this hand with 33 44 w/e at a price of 10xBB PF. Link to post Share on other sites
Merby 3 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I'm saying UTG shouldn't be in this hand with 33 44 w/e at a price of 10xBB PF.Whoops, I misread your "?!?!?" as "??!??!?". You can see the resulting confusion that this caused. Link to post Share on other sites
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