droberts 3 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 363459The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History ConverterSB: $2.00BB: $19.10UTG: $7.05Hero (UTG+1): $10.00MP1: $5.70MP2: $2.00CO: $10.70BTN: $1.80Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+1 with A A 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 5 folds, BB calls $0.30Flop: ($0.85) J 7 7 (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.50Turn: ($2.85) 9 (2 players)BB bets $17.70 all ini didnt reraise the flop to disguise my hand as well and keep the pot small until the turn... basically pot control... usually i 3 bet the flop to $2.50-$3.no reads on villain becuase this was literally his second hand at the table, but the very hand before this.. it went down like this.Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 363461The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History ConverterBB: $11.55UTG: $2.00UTG+1: $10.00UTG+2: $7.05Hero (MP1): $10.00MP2: $5.70CO: $2.00BTN: $10.70SB: $1.85UTG+1 posts a big blind ($0.10)Pre Flop: ($0.25) Hero is MP1 with 5 8 1 fold, UTG+1 checks, 6 folds, BB raises to $0.70, UTG+1 calls $0.60Flop: ($1.45) 6 8 2 (2 players)BB bets $1.70, UTG+1 calls $1.70Turn: ($4.85) J (2 players)BB bets $2.70, UTG+1 calls $2.70River: ($10.25) 3 (2 players)BB checks, UTG+1 bets $4.90 all in, BB calls $4.90Final Pot: $20.05BB shows A Q (high card Ace)UTG+1 shows 4 5 (a straight, Deuce to Six)UTG+1 wins $19.10(Rake: $0.95)so with that knowledge of villain from the previous hand.. now what? Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 i prefer .30 open but .40 is fine. I reraise this flop to about $3 and see what that does, try to get AJ,KJ,QJ to go for stacks asap. as played im probably folding the turn, horrible card if we know villain chases hard then pushes when he makes his hand--- ugh villain is really bad. This is either a J or a 7 or 810 and all of those are in his range (i know he could be full but i don't think that is as likely). wow most likely he has a st8 if that is the way he plays. wow i think i get away from this hand but I am not too happy about being put into such a though spot so early in a session with villain. Kind of a sick spot, we could have the best hand and letting villain aggro tard us off it but what can we do but wait for a better spot to stack him Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 This is like a 7 always. But you're 100bbs deep and this dude posted UTG+1. I have a little rule called me no foldy AA to tardos. Link to post Share on other sites
rbakken2504 0 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 I'd say about 80% of the time, this is some sort of 7, especially since he posted and at this level. The huge bet is probably a "protection" bet. But than again, he did post early, so obviously he isnt a decent player, so he could just have a jack...but since there is so little in this pot, i think folding is probably best. Link to post Share on other sites
Lucoo_ 0 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 This really varies per player, but as tskillz said don't fold aces to an idiot spewmonkey, esp not on a paired board. I am sometimes amazed what people show up with in these spots. Link to post Share on other sites
droberts 3 Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 This really varies per player, but as tskillz said don't fold aces to an idiot spewmonkey, esp not on a paired board. I am sometimes amazed what people show up with in these spots. after i called i was amazed as well. Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 365839The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History ConverterSB: $2.00BB: $19.10UTG: $7.05Hero (UTG+1): $10.00MP1: $5.70MP2: $2.00CO: $10.70BTN: $1.80Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+1 with A A 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 5 folds, BB calls $0.30Flop: ($0.85) J 7 7 (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.50Turn: ($2.85) 9 (2 players)BB bets $17.70 all in, Hero calls $8.60 all inRiver: ($20.05) 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)Final Pot: $20.05BB shows 8 J (a full house, Sevens full of Jacks)Hero shows A A (a full house, Sevens full of Aces)Hero wins $19.10(Rake: $0.95) Link to post Share on other sites
Massimo8 0 Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 wow, thats the definition of Donkey. Calling the pf raise w/ j-8o and raising you on the flop? Search for this guy every time you're online and trap,trap,trap. Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I have a little rule called me no foldy AA to tardos.That little rule works about 40% of the time, which is enough. Me likey Link to post Share on other sites
kreppsen 0 Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 w/ j-8o and raising you on the flop?Why wouldn't he bet flop? He hit top pair, plus board paired. Link to post Share on other sites
droberts 3 Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 Why wouldn't he bet flop? He hit top pair, plus board paired.i could have understood if he led out with top pair, at which point i would have raised him and then he can choose to 3 bet me if he wanted.but i dont like check-raising an EP raiser with J8 on that board.his line would have been better to lead out and fold to my raise, or to call my raise, eval the turn and then fold to my strong bet on the turn. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Why wouldn't he bet flop? He hit top pair, plus board paired.Worse generally don't call and better don't fold. Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Why are we trying to figure out why a fish played a hand terribly?He's a fish.He played the hand terribly. Link to post Share on other sites
kreppsen 0 Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 i could have understood if he led out with top pair, at which point i would have raised him and then he can choose to 3 bet me if he wanted.but i dont like check-raising an EP raiser with J8 on that board.his line would have been better to lead out and fold to my raise, or to call my raise, eval the turn and then fold to my strong bet on the turn.He's a fish so his line and his approach to the game will be totally different than the one you're suggesting right now. Why are we trying to figure out why a fish played a hand terribly? Link to post Share on other sites
cloud_island 0 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 can't fold at these levels. Link to post Share on other sites
cloud_island 0 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 lol@ trying to dissect a fishes line Link to post Share on other sites
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