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#41 rcgs59

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 12:16 PM

View PostPoker Addict, on Friday, April 15th, 2011, 4:09 PM, said:

FFS! So.... Should we be requesting cash or not? I do not know what to do!!!!! And I want to cry. Can't imagine if I had more money on there like some of us. I am just in for $3k. DAMN!!!!!!:club:
a friend just tried and it won't let him cashwere he did cash some out a hour ago
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Posted 15 April 2011 - 12:17 PM

this clip seems appropiate:

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 12:18 PM

View PostPoker Addict, on Friday, April 15th, 2011, 9:15 PM, said:

How is this going to affect the cash outs from the non US players?+++ might be offering a processing fee to my my non-US friends +++
you can't currently transfer either.
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Posted 15 April 2011 - 12:20 PM

Can anyone that was playing in the US before this happened get in any sort of legal trouble?

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 12:22 PM

On a positive note; right now this stands as the last online poker hand I ever played. Dealt to Yoda FCP [4h 5h] mrkurtz: folds live4yng: folds AB_Poker_12: folds JabbaTheNutt: folds Yoda FCP: raises $4 to $6 RhinoBluff: folds MeleaB: folds Vigilanty: raises $12 to $18 Croat1981: folds Yoda FCP: calls $12 *** FLOP *** [5d 4d 5c] Vigilanty: bets $22 Yoda FCP: calls $22 *** TURN *** [5d 4d 5c] [Jh] Vigilanty: bets $54 Yoda FCP: raises $132 to $186 and is all-in Vigilanty: calls $111.40 and is all-in Uncalled bet ($20.60) returned to Yoda FCP *** RIVER *** [5d 4d 5c Jh] [5s] *** SHOW DOWN *** Vigilanty: shows [Ac As] (a full house, Fives full of Aces) Yoda FCP: shows [4h 5h] (four of a kind, Fives) Yoda FCP collected $409.80 from pot


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Posted 15 April 2011 - 12:27 PM

View PostSuperJon, on Friday, April 15th, 2011, 3:20 PM, said:

Can anyone that was playing in the US before this happened get in any sort of legal trouble?
For violating Gambling Laws, Banking Laws and possibly Internal Revenue regulations :icon_dance:Probably could.
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Posted 15 April 2011 - 12:30 PM

This blows.Wynn (WYNN.O) stock did not take a dump which surprises me. I thought the current run up was due to the partnership with the pokerstars. Wonder if there is going to be a surge at casinos.Edit: Rather Ironic this went down April 15.

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 12:31 PM

View PostYoda, on Friday, April 15th, 2011, 4:22 PM, said:

On a positive note; right now this stands as the last online poker hand I ever played. Dealt to Yoda FCP [4h 5h] mrkurtz: folds live4yng: folds AB_Poker_12: folds JabbaTheNutt: folds Yoda FCP: raises $4 to $6 RhinoBluff: folds MeleaB: folds Vigilanty: raises $12 to $18 Croat1981: folds Yoda FCP: calls $12 *** FLOP *** [5d 4d 5c] Vigilanty: bets $22 Yoda FCP: calls $22 *** TURN *** [5d 4d 5c] [Jh] Vigilanty: bets $54 Yoda FCP: raises $132 to $186 and is all-in Vigilanty: calls $111.40 and is all-in Uncalled bet ($20.60) returned to Yoda FCP *** RIVER *** [5d 4d 5c Jh] [5s] *** SHOW DOWN *** Vigilanty: shows [Ac As] (a full house, Fives full of Aces) Yoda FCP: shows [4h 5h] (four of a kind, Fives) Yoda FCP collected $409.80 from pot
Nice Coda for Yoda...Re: Surge at live venues...kind of like...YEAH.
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Posted 15 April 2011 - 12:34 PM

What I don't get is; why is Stars blocking out US players all of a sudden NOW? I mean, it already was illegal right? The govt made this clear and stars and tilt said ya whatever. So why block us because the domain got seized and some more indictments were thrown out? I really thought it would just be business as usual. What am I missing?


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Posted 15 April 2011 - 12:36 PM

View PostYoda, on Friday, April 15th, 2011, 4:34 PM, said:

What I don't get is; why is Stars blocking out US players all of a sudden NOW? I mean, it already was illegal right? The govt made this clear and stars and tilt said ya whatever. So why block us because the domain got seized and some more indictments were thrown out? I really thought it would just be business as usual. What am I missing?
officially the site was just seized
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Posted 15 April 2011 - 12:38 PM

View Postrcgs59, on Friday, April 15th, 2011, 4:36 PM, said:

officially the site was just seized
No, the domain for the website was seized. But so what. That has nothing to do with connecting to their offshore servers and playing. You can still sign in and open up a table. They just won't let you sit.


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Posted 15 April 2011 - 12:42 PM

I can't imagine what people who make their lives off of poker and have thousands of dollars in accounts must be going through right now.

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 12:44 PM

Meet The Boy Genius Who Just Took Down The Online Poker IndustryFriday, 15 April 2011 15:21The internet is still coming to grips with the huge online gambling bust that just took down the U.S.'s three biggest online poker sites.But Australia's Courier-Mail already has the scoop on the one man who may have single-handedly built the online industry ... then handed it to the U.S. government on a platter.Read more: http://www.businessi...4#ixzz1JcpkoBG0Daniel Tzvetkoff online poker fbiImage: Courier-Mail The internet is still coming to grips with the huge online gambling bust that just took down the U.S.'s three biggest online poker sites.But Australia's Courier-Mail already has the scoop on the one man who may have single-handedly built the online industry ... then handed it to the U.S. government on a platter.According to this story, Daniel Tzvetkoff was a young Australian entrepreneur who set up the payment processing schemes used by the biggest poker sites to handle their (mostly illegal) transactions.He made Full Tilt Poker and Poker Stars millions of dollars — and making as much $150,000 a day for himself — but then got even more greedy and started taking them for himself. They sued him, demanding more than $100 million of their own money back.Then last April, Tzvetkoff was arrested in Las Vegas and charged with the same crimes those sites founders were charged with today: money laundering, bank fraud, wire fraud. As an Australian citizen with a lot of wealth, he was considered a flight risk and denied bail.Then after a "secret" meeting with prosecutors, he was suddenly out on bail. And now, his former colleagues are the ones facing serious jail time.Daniel Tzvetkoff knows the operations of these poker site inside and out. He's the one man positioned to give these companies to the U.S. Attorneys on a silver platter. And it looks like that's exactly what he did, cooperating with the authorities to avoid his own lengthy jail sentence.All the major gambling prosecutions in the U.S., since Tzvetkoff's arrest have been run out of the office of Arlo Devlin-Brown, the Manhattan Asst. U.S. Attorney, who is Tzvetkoff's "handler."According to a source, "He knows how to reverse-engineer transactions to determine its original source," making him very valuable to investigators.And the biggest irony of all? It's been rumored that the only reason the FBI got their hands on him is because Full Tilt or Poker Stars (the companies he used to work for and stole from) tipped off the FBI that he was going to be traveling to the United StatesThey ratted him out ... and he turned the tables. No honor among thieves.And as the Courier Mail put it, if this were still the old days, he'd buried in the Las Vegas desert right now.Read more: http://www.businessi...4#ixzz1JcpkoBG0
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Posted 15 April 2011 - 12:46 PM

View PostLongLiveYorke, on Friday, April 15th, 2011, 2:42 PM, said:

I can't imagine what people who make their lives off of poker and have thousands of dollars in accounts must be going through right now.
ugh for real, I dont even have 1K online and I'm sweating ever seeing it in my grubby hands
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Posted 15 April 2011 - 12:50 PM

I blame Tyler for bringing me back to the interwebz poker.
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Posted 15 April 2011 - 12:50 PM

Apparently they are going after some Banks too. Good luck getting a transaction thru a Bank.

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 12:55 PM

I'm looking forward to seeing statements by the sites.
"We had all the momentum. We were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave. So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look west, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark, that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back." —Raoul Duke, Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 12:55 PM

This reminds me of when they shut down neteller. TON of rage, panic, worry. But in the end we did get the money.I don't expect to be able to withdraw any time soon, but I also believe the money isn't going anywhere and will be accessible one way or another in due time. Or not...but I'd like to be optimistic about it.


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Posted 15 April 2011 - 12:56 PM

View PostLongLiveYorke, on Friday, April 15th, 2011, 4:42 PM, said:

I can't imagine what people who make their lives off of poker and have thousands of dollars in accounts must be going through right now.
I'm too high for superlatives, but it's really not fun.

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 12:57 PM

http://theppa.org/pr...anies-04152011/ NEWS RELEASECarolyn KempFor Immediate Distributionckemp@theheraldgroup.com (202) 617-3074 PPA Comments on Federal Action Against Online Poker CompaniesWASHINGTON, DC. (April 15, 2011)– Former Senator Alfonse D’Amato, Chairman of thePoker Players Alliance (PPA), the leading poker grassroots advocacy group with more than onemillion members nationwide, issued the comment below on today’s announcement on federalaction taken against online poker companies.“On behalf of the millions of poker players across the country, we are shocked at the action taken by the U.S. Department of Justice today against online poker companies and will continue tofight for Americans’ right to participate in the game they enjoy. Online poker is not a crime andshould not be treated as such. We are currently gathering all of the information around today’sannouncement and will offer detailed analysis when the full facts become available.”### About The Poker Players AllianceThe Poker Players Alliance ( www.theppa.org )is a nonprofit membership organization comprised of over 1,000,000online and offline poker players and enthusiasts from around the United States who have joined together to speak with one voice to promote the game and to protect poker players' rights.
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