Ashamed Of My Beloved State

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http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_news/article/8815N.C. Court Rules Poker Is a Game of ChanceCourt Quashed Attempts of Man to Open Poker Club ThereThe North Carolina Court of Appeals yesterday ruled that poker is a game of luck and not one of skill. The court ruled in a case that was appealed to it by Howard Fierman, who wanted to open up a poker club called the Joker Club in Durham County in 2004. When the attorney general of Durham County, Jim Hardin, told Fierman that that the club would be illegal, Fierman sued the county on the grounds that poker is a game of skill and should not be considered a gambling game.The case was first heard in county Superior Court July 1, 2005 and the Appellate Court Aug. 23, 2006. The ruling was just made yesterday (May 1).All three Appellate judges ruled that poker is a game of chance, despite hearing testimony from four witnesses for the plaintiff, and only one, an officer for the North Carolina Alcohol Law Enforcement Division named Richard Thornell, for the Attorney General. The witnesses for the plaintiff included Card Player contributor and poker instructor Roy Cooke.Cooke testified that although on any single hand of poker, chance may defeat skill, over the long run, skill will ultimately beat luck. He also testified that there are certain mathematical strategies players can learn to use to improve their game.The court chose to believe Thornell, who testified that he’s played poker for nearly 40 years. He told the court that although he feels there’s skill in poker, luck ultimately prevails. He specifically noted a hand that he watched on television that had a 91 percent chance to win lose to a hand than only had a 9 percent chance to win. (Well g.od damn, he must be right then)In effect, the court ruled that chance dominates skill in poker, and therefore, the state will consider it a game of chance the way state law is written. This is a travesty of human intellect, and a big step backwards for N.C. fans of poker and fans of freedom.

[Suited_Up 2]

Probably shouldn't bring up Danny Nguyen then.

[crazyplaya6 0]

lol @ bible thumperment states

[tuckermitchell 1]

just a question and it may make little sense to you but I am on a giant slide of monkey tilt so it makes sense to me right now... anyways...how would poker differ any from specuating on the stock market? You are investing your money in differents stocks or funds... Blue chippers=AA, KK... speculative stocks are more like 4/6 sooted... hit a big flop and cash big but most of the time throw away a little bit of money. Am I just misguided?

[FourFlusher 0]

Don't dwell on the hyprocosy of the law, you'll get crazy.

[finztotheleft 0]

This was posted in another thread a few days ago too........I thought it odd that the one expert witness on the prosecutor's side is an officer in the NC Alcohol Law Dept who has played poker for 40 years. Didn't he just admit to breaking those laws for 40 years ?

[GeneralGeeWhiz 0]

[Loismustdie 0]

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_news/article/8815N.C. Court Rules Poker Is a Game of ChanceCourt Quashed Attempts of Man to Open Poker Club ThereThe North Carolina Court of Appeals yesterday ruled that poker is a game of luck and not one of skill. The court ruled in a case that was appealed to it by Howard Fierman, who wanted to open up a poker club called the Joker Club in Durham County in 2004. When the attorney general of Durham County, Jim Hardin, told Fierman that that the club would be illegal, Fierman sued the county on the grounds that poker is a game of skill and should not be considered a gambling game.The case was first heard in county Superior Court July 1, 2005 and the Appellate Court Aug. 23, 2006. The ruling was just made yesterday (May 1).All three Appellate judges ruled that poker is a game of chance, despite hearing testimony from four witnesses for the plaintiff, and only one, an officer for the North Carolina Alcohol Law Enforcement Division named Richard Thornell, for the Attorney General. The witnesses for the plaintiff included Card Player contributor and poker instructor Roy Cooke.Cooke testified that although on any single hand of poker, chance may defeat skill, over the long run, skill will ultimately beat luck. He also testified that there are certain mathematical strategies players can learn to use to improve their game.The court chose to believe Thornell, who testified that he’s played poker for nearly 40 years. He told the court that although he feels there’s skill in poker, luck ultimately prevails. He specifically noted a hand that he watched on television that had a 91 percent chance to win lose to a hand than only had a 9 percent chance to win. (Well g.od damn, he must be right then)In effect, the court ruled that chance dominates skill in poker, and therefore, the state will consider it a game of chance the way state law is written. This is a travesty of human intellect, and a big step backwards for N.C. fans of poker and fans of freedom.

For most people, it is a game of chance. Laws are made for the majority.

[Flack_attack 0]

For most people, it is a game of chance. Laws are made for the majority.

No. For everyone it's a game of skill. Some people have more skill than others, hence winners and losers.

[SuitedAces21 2,723]

YES! Thats Awesome!

[Miguel McHarris 0]

A red state in the south. Never gonna happen.

[chaosnhavoc 0]

For most people, it is a game of chance. Laws are made for the majority.

Actually Laws are made by people that dont have an IQ higher than 30 or have the Money to Buy one.

[IQCrash 1]

YES! Thats Awesome!