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[Saint Joel 0]

Ya, it really seemed like it was almost planned...

honestly that thought went through my head too, the only thing i can think of was that the way the show was edited, they didnt really show too much successfull stealing/bluffing, only the pickoffs of such moves, so while that move might have worked for huck upto that point they only showed the hand were he got caught

[joker12676 0]

Toto does seem to get ridiculously lucky, but when you play as many hands as he does its bound to happen more often. Of course they are gonna show it to when he puts a bad beat on somebody its just good tv.Why in the hell though does it take him so long to act. In the 2004 uspc every hand they showed it took him 2 minutes to decide to put in a big raise and thats all he did. He shouldn't even bother lookin at his cards just make reads and raise pots.

[BustedAces 0]

If you ask me D'agastino still acted like a complete cry baby in that situation.I understand he took alot of bad beats but hes gotta take it like a man and not a 4 year old girl. I thought it was really unproffesional of him.Hoyt got lucky but he also got unlucky that he got a call there. Hoyt at a final table is great, hes always putting tremendous pressure on his opponents!

I think Hoyt Corkins asking for a chip recount, to make sure Dagastino wasnt eliminated, is what set him over the edge.

[Hooha123 0]

did all of yall see D'agostino (spelling) throw his hellmuth like fit at the final table.....absolutely priceless

I would have reacted the same way. It was kind of ridiculous, that hand. And then he lost the next hand with the one chip he had left. "I'm all in" and he had the best hand then and lost. Hoyt Corkins kinda screwed 'em, but that's the game.

[RISEorFall 0]

well of course they have to edit what they show. I mean...they can't have a 10 hour TV segment.

I'm not talking about it being edited for time reasons. I'm talking about them editing certain hands to make them more exciting than they actually were. Hands that never actually took place, spliced parts from several different hands to make one bigger, more dramatic hand. Colon raises w/ QJ, guy to his right calls w/ Q10, Appleman calls from SB with A10, and Huck Seed calls from BB with pocket 5's I think. THen it shows Howard Lederer looks at 9-3 and folds. The next guy looks at rags and folds. For this exact thing to have happened, Lederer and the guy next to him would have had to have limped with their rag hands from UTG and UTG+1. Somehow I don't think that's what happened.

[AceyDeucy 0]

well of course they have to edit what they show. I mean...they can't have a 10 hour TV segment.

I'm not talking about it being edited for time reasons. I'm talking about them editing certain hands to make them more exciting than they actually were. Hands that never actually took place, spliced parts from several different hands to make one bigger, more dramatic hand. Colon raises w/ QJ, guy to his right calls w/ Q10, Appleman calls from SB with A10, and Huck Seed calls from BB with pocket 5's I think. THen it shows Howard Lederer looks at 9-3 and folds. The next guy looks at rags and folds. For this exact thing to have happened, Lederer and the guy next to him would have had to have limped with their rag hands from UTG and UTG+1. Somehow I don't think that's what happened.

Also, for those of you that read Chris Moneymaker's book, he talks about ESPN's editing. The hand where he called Dutch Boyd's all-in with 33, Dutch never took his galsse soff to stare him down, that happened hours later.Raymer also made a comment to that effect on ESPN's Final Table With Fossilman, that David Williams did not need nearly as long to call off all his chips as ESPN showed.There have been a lot of questions raised about ESPN's editing over the last few years. Paul Phillips put in a real long post on the hand where Phil Hellmuth bluffed Tony D off of trip jacks, for instance, and he insisted that it was faked completely.

[offsuitbluff 0]

Hoyt Did nothing wrong asking for a chip count and he did nothing wrong asking going all in there, its how he plays.I dont think it matters that D'agistino is young, its not that hard to quitley push your chips over to hoyt then curse a storm.I see alot of players take bad beats and then curse like a sailor, and to me that alright as long as theyr'e not disrespecting there opponent.