blakheart 3 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 7th hand of a 180 man.I am always a little uncomfortable playing out of position. this look standard?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Hero (t1440)UTG+1 (t1500)MP1 (t1460)MP2 (t1470)MP3 (t1770)CO (t1500)Button (t1560)SB (t1300)BB (t1500)Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A. Hero raises to t60, 1 fold, MP1 calls t60, 1 fold, MP3 calls t60, 3 folds, BB calls t40.Flop: (t250) 2, 5, 2(4 players)BB checks, Hero bets t300, MP1 calls t300, MP3 folds, BB folds.Turn: (t850) 4(2 players)Hero checks, MP1 bets t300, Hero calls t300.River: (t1450) A(2 players)Hero bets t500, MP1 raises to t800, Hero calls t280 (All-In).Final Pot: t3030Results below:Villian had 3c3d Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisRichey 1 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 I raise to 80 pf, and bet around 175-200 on the flop. I like the c/c on the turn, and the lead on the river. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 I prefer check raising all in on the turn. You're ahead here often enough and you have plenty of outs if you're behind. That way, you also spare yourself of having to face a decision on the river with decent pot odds if your hand has not improved.After all, if you had a hand like 88, you might play it just like he did. Flat call the flop to see what happens on the turn. Then the heart falls and you check, so he decides to represent it, or mabye he thinks you have AK or something. That's why I like CRing all in. You can end the hand there, he can call with a worse hand, or in other cases, you are behind and need to draw out. All in all, I think that's the safest move. Link to post Share on other sites
outsider13 0 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 I really don't think that there is much you can do different to shake this guy from his pair. I would have bet out on the turn because that semi bluff bet would have scared me a bit with the straight and flush draws.You were lucky it was an A and not a 6 on the river. Pretty much a donk play by the villain. Link to post Share on other sites
IAGTTAYM 0 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 I would raise it to 80 preflop, but 60 is fine. On the flop I would bet about 175. I like the c/c on the turn, a cr all-in is alright too. River: I would probably fold Link to post Share on other sites
blakheart 3 Posted February 16, 2007 Author Share Posted February 16, 2007 I raise to 80 pf, and bet around 175-200 on the flop. I like the c/c on the turn, and the lead on the river.I overbet the flop on purpose to limit the field. At this point playing against 4 villians is not acceptable.I prefer check raising all in on the turn. You're ahead here often enough and you have plenty of outs if you're behind. That way, you also spare yourself of having to face a decision on the river with decent pot odds if your hand has not improvedYeah- that is really where I was questioning my play. With the Ah in my hand, it seemed to me less likely that he had a flush there, so I felt I was most likely still ahead and clearly had redraws. I called with the intent of leading any river card. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 I called with the intent of leading any river card.I don't like that. If you're gonna play the river unimproved, I think you need to check and let him bet. He's either bluffing or has you beaten. In both of those cases, leading into him is bad. Link to post Share on other sites
caribstv 0 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Just a bad hand.... I'm sorry i'm taking a flop with 33 if he pushed on the flop that'll be decision I'd have to make.. when the 4 dropped on 4th street it made my hand stronger epecially if i put him on a couple of Big cards.. virtually impossible for me to fold now... even against a BIG pair i have plenty of outs..... trips, straight Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisRichey 1 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 I overbet the flop on purpose to limit the field. At this point playing against 4 villians is not acceptable.200 is overbetting the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
GABMAD 0 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 7th hand of a 180 man.I am always a little uncomfortable playing out of position. this look standard?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Hero (t1440)UTG+1 (t1500)MP1 (t1460)MP2 (t1470)MP3 (t1770)CO (t1500)Button (t1560)SB (t1300)BB (t1500)Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A. Hero raises to t60, 1 fold, MP1 calls t60, 1 fold, MP3 calls t60, 3 folds, BB calls t40.Flop: (t250) 2, 5, 2(4 players)BB checks, Hero bets t300, MP1 calls t300, MP3 folds, BB folds.Turn: (t850) 4(2 players)Hero checks, MP1 bets t300, Hero calls t300.River: (t1450) A(2 players)Hero bets t500, MP1 raises to t800, Hero calls t280 (All-In).Final Pot: t3030Results below:Villian had 3c3d Looks standard. I might have bet 200 on flop. Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 I think you either shove turn or check/shove turn. Probably check/shove. Link to post Share on other sites
Whiter Sr 0 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 7th hand of a 180 man.I am always a little uncomfortable playing out of position. this look standard?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Hero (t1440)UTG+1 (t1500)MP1 (t1460)MP2 (t1470)MP3 (t1770)CO (t1500)Button (t1560)SB (t1300)BB (t1500)Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A. Hero raises to t60, 1 fold, MP1 calls t60, 1 fold, MP3 calls t60, 3 folds, BB calls t40.Flop: (t250) 2, 5, 2(4 players)BB checks, Hero bets t300, MP1 calls t300, MP3 folds, BB folds.Turn: (t850) 4(2 players)Hero checks, MP1 bets t300, Hero calls t300.River: (t1450) A(2 players)Hero bets t500, MP1 raises to t800, Hero calls t280 (All-In).Final Pot: t3030Results below:Villian had 3c3d Am I missing something. You filled up on the river and won the pot. What is the problem. You seem to have gotten all of his chips? Link to post Share on other sites
Whiter Sr 0 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 7th hand of a 180 man.I am always a little uncomfortable playing out of position. this look standard?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Hero (t1440)UTG+1 (t1500)MP1 (t1460)MP2 (t1470)MP3 (t1770)CO (t1500)Button (t1560)SB (t1300)BB (t1500)Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A. Hero raises to t60, 1 fold, MP1 calls t60, 1 fold, MP3 calls t60, 3 folds, BB calls t40.Flop: (t250) 2, 5, 2(4 players)BB checks, Hero bets t300, MP1 calls t300, MP3 folds, BB folds.Turn: (t850) 4(2 players)Hero checks, MP1 bets t300, Hero calls t300.River: (t1450) A(2 players)Hero bets t500, MP1 raises to t800, Hero calls t280 (All-In).Final Pot: t3030Results below:Villian had 3c3d Am I missing something. You filled up on the river and won the pot beating his straight. What is the problem. You seem to have gotten all of his chips? Link to post Share on other sites
ramenandeggs 0 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Am I missing something. You filled up on the river and won the pot beating his straight. What is the problem. You seem to have gotten all of his chips?" Just a bad hand.... I'm sorry i'm taking a flop with 33 if he pushed on the flop that'll bedecision I'd have to make.. when the 4 dropped on 4th street it made my hand stronger epecially if i put him on a couple of Big cards.. virtually impossible for me to fold now... even against a BIG pair i have plenty of outs..... trips, straight"and that is why we dont post results. gg. Link to post Share on other sites
ramenandeggs 0 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 i like the flop bet. we're outpricing flush draws, which will most definitely call anything pot and under (and is correct to with two cards to come), and we're playing oop against 3 players. I'm check-raising all in on turn because we're both basically pot commited at the point of a second 300 bet. Link to post Share on other sites
caribstv 0 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 " Just a bad hand.... I'm sorry i'm taking a flop with 33 if he pushed on the flop that'll bedecision I'd have to make.. when the 4 dropped on 4th street it made my hand stronger epecially if i put him on a couple of Big cards.. virtually impossible for me to fold now... even against a BIG pair i have plenty of outs..... trips, straight"and that is why we dont post results. gg. You're lucky..... playing it weak and still out drawing on the river... you wouldn't feel happy sucked out on u on the river. Link to post Share on other sites
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