Brunswick14 0 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 found this and thought it was pretty cool:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7...SOP+FINAL+TABLE Link to post Share on other sites
rogerwilco 0 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 I've seen that before, it is pretty cool. Bobby Baldwin seems to have been (or still is) an amazing poker player. Link to post Share on other sites
Brunswick14 0 Posted February 6, 2007 Author Share Posted February 6, 2007 yeah im sure he's still one of the best today.I wonder why ESPN doesn't air the old WSOP's like this one, or i think it was 82 when unger won it, or 88,89 etc.. Link to post Share on other sites
silkyjonson 1 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 I guess Alto had some pretty bad luck at WSOP final tables (which he had made a few) and supposedly lead him in a downward spiral in his life. Link to post Share on other sites
Brunswick14 0 Posted February 6, 2007 Author Share Posted February 6, 2007 I guess Alto had some pretty bad luck at WSOP final tables (which he had made a few) and supposedly lead him in a downward spiral in his life.what do you mean...like he owed people money, or he became a drug addict? Link to post Share on other sites
silkyjonson 1 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 what do you mean...like he owed people money, or he became a drug addict?Alcoholic etc. supposedly he was a really good player but took some bad beats, and blew up at a few ME final tables, and never recovered (so it was said) Link to post Share on other sites
SSPadawon4 0 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 i love how brent musenberger is annoucing this. Link to post Share on other sites
lordofelt 0 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 I've seen the WSOP final table that Stu Ungar wins on TV before. It is his 3rd title and is like 91/92 I think, it's outside if that helps. With regards to why ESPN doesn't show the real old school ones I'd imagine they didn't have the broadcast rights that far back. Link to post Share on other sites
pezeveng 207 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 seems like the old guys say the same thing about the young guys back than as the do now. Those young ones are more educated. Link to post Share on other sites
Jelly-Filled Ace 1 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Cool video, great throwback - Jimmy "the Greek" and smoking at the table, dealer having a chip tray and of course the Ardmore Girls.Thanks for posting that. Link to post Share on other sites
Brunswick14 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Author Share Posted February 7, 2007 Cool video, great throwback - Jimmy "the Greek" and smoking at the table, dealer having a chip tray and of course the Ardmore Girls.Thanks for posting that.no problem,and to lordofelt im pretty sure thats 97 when unger wins his third Link to post Share on other sites
pocktdeuces 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 I've seen the WSOP final table that Stu Ungar wins on TV before. It is his 3rd title and is like 91/92 I think, it's outside if that helps. With regards to why ESPN doesn't show the real old school ones I'd imagine they didn't have the broadcast rights that far back.'97edit: brunswick beat me to it Link to post Share on other sites
ROGUE06 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 yeah im sure he's still one of the best today.I wonder why ESPN doesn't air the old WSOP's like this one, or i think it was 82 when unger won it, or 88,89 etc..Ungar won 80 and 81, don't think ESPN can show those because they didn't do those. What really confuses me is the 87-92 WSOP, those are all done by ESPN but never shown on ESPN classic. Only 93-95, 97-98, 02-06 are shown. Link to post Share on other sites
Brunswick14 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Author Share Posted February 7, 2007 Ungar won 80 and 81, don't think ESPN can show those because they didn't do those. What really confuses me is the 87-92 WSOP, those are all done by ESPN but never shown on ESPN classic. Only 93-95, 97-98, 02-06 are shown.what years did the travel channel have it? Link to post Share on other sites
silkyjonson 1 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Ungar won 80 and 81, don't think ESPN can show those because they didn't do those. What really confuses me is the 87-92 WSOP, those are all done by ESPN but never shown on ESPN classic. Only 93-95, 97-98, 02-06 are shown.anybody that wants a good read should pick up One of a kind - The Stu Unger story, great read if you love poker or if you dont', the guy was a card freak. Link to post Share on other sites
Brunswick14 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Author Share Posted February 7, 2007 anybody that wants a good read should pick up One of a kind - The Stu Unger story, great read if you love poker or if you dont', the guy was a card freak.I've seen his movie "High Roller" is it about like that? Link to post Share on other sites
lordofelt 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 My apologies didn't realize it was so late that Stu won his last Main Event title. Boy the films from those days make you realize what a brilliant invention the hole cam was! Link to post Share on other sites
Muck, You Suckers! 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Thanks very much for the link. Had never seen that before, only read about it. Enjoyed it. Link to post Share on other sites
ROGUE06 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 what years did the travel channel have it?2000 and 2001 Link to post Share on other sites
doox 15 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 A couple of things I thought were interesting that really show how the game has evolved:At one point when it was 4-handed, Jimmy was talking about how the 2 chip leaders (Baldwin and Addington) wouldn't be making "any mistakes" by bluffing at pots. They were the leaders and would be playing really conservative until it was heads-up. That's a bit different from lots of big stacks bullying other players relentlessly.Another thing - when it was heads-up, the players would match stacks when calling by placing their chips next to the chips put out by their opponent. After this call was made, the chips stayed there between the players and Baldwin was allowed to touch them again to organize the stacks. I can't see this happening nowadays. Link to post Share on other sites
Muck, You Suckers! 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 I've seen his movie "High Roller" is it about like that? The book is wayyyyyyyy better. The movie sucked and was not accurate at all. Link to post Share on other sites
silkyjonson 1 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 The book is wayyyyyyyy better. The movie sucked and was not accurate at all.qft, movie is an injustice to the book. Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 This is a great find. Thanks OP.Mark Link to post Share on other sites
ROGUE06 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 A couple of things I thought were interesting that really show how the game has evolved:At one point when it was 4-handed, Jimmy was talking about how the 2 chip leaders (Baldwin and Addington) wouldn't be making "any mistakes" by bluffing at pots. They were the leaders and would be playing really conservative until it was heads-up. That's a bit different from lots of big stacks bullying other players relentlessly.Another thing - when it was heads-up, the players would match stacks when calling by placing their chips next to the chips put out by their opponent. After this call was made, the chips stayed there between the players and Baldwin was allowed to touch them again to organize the stacks. I can't see this happening nowadays. Mostly because most internet donks have never handled chips before. Link to post Share on other sites
Brunswick14 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Author Share Posted February 7, 2007 A couple of things I thought were interesting that really show how the game has evolved:At one point when it was 4-handed, Jimmy was talking about how the 2 chip leaders (Baldwin and Addington) wouldn't be making "any mistakes" by bluffing at pots. They were the leaders and would be playing really conservative until it was heads-up. That's a bit different from lots of big stacks bullying other players relentlessly.Another thing - when it was heads-up, the players would match stacks when calling by placing their chips next to the chips put out by their opponent. After this call was made, the chips stayed there between the players and Baldwin was allowed to touch them again to organize the stacks. I can't see this happening nowadays. yeah it really shows how security has changed. Link to post Share on other sites
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