Kk On An Aa4 Board

[JJACKSON123 0]

Bodog $3500 gtdsittng with 2400 in chips, blinds are 20-40, over 400 leftcutoff has 24002 limpers, cutoff raises to 120, button folds, i raise to 500 in the sb, folds to raiser who callsflop: AA4, I bet 600, he pushes for 1200 more, i foldthoughts?

[BeaverStyle 1]

This is a tough hand... because you led out, you open up the possibility to facing a re-raise for his entire stack... and he could make this move w/ basically any pair, as well as Ax.I really don't know what I would do here... I'd probably fold, but you're only beat by 44, Ax here... and he may make this move w/ many hands.Copernicus will know what to do.

[copernicus 0]

Id push preflop instead of the raise. the raise to 500 gives the early caller 2:1 odds, and Id rather take this pot down or get a call from an underpair. As played I guess you have to believe him and fold, but I definitely dont lead the flop. Either he has an A or the AA scares the hell out of him and he has to check it down.

[JJACKSON123 0]

ya leading the flop was bad... my friend said it best when he told me to check and fold to a push and call a small bet... if he bets small and we call he'll know we have a hand, so unless he has a big ace he will probly check down... i dont really like pushing preflop because i think playing big pots with KK is +ev, however, you do know more than i do

[ramenandeggs 0]

how much bigger of a pot can you get than all in? depending on the likeliness of a steal by co here, i might just call the raise and then check-raise his continuation bet with a safe flop. otherwise, if villian has something, i might just do as copernicus said and have pushed us into the middle.as the board came out though, i think a check-fold is in order.

[dingas 0]

This situation just sucks. The point is that the CO knows that you are more likely to have a pair JJ--KK than AK given that there are two aces on the flop. Therefore, if you check he might just run a bluff. And betting 600 gives you no value if he has a smaller pair. I think you should think outside the box and make a very small bet, about 200, as if you had AK and were trying to get paid off, knowing that there aren't many hands that will call a big bet. Seeing as the main reason to bet is to avoid being bluffed, and a bet of 200 in this spot from a decent player doesn't necessarily look like weakness, I think this limits our losses if villain does have the goods.

[simo_8ball 0]

Pushing preflop is poor IMO. I would struggle to call a shove there with QQ, and I would easily fold AK. Raising to 500 has a far higher expectation unless your opponents will call with TT, AQ, etc.

[copernicus 0]

Pushing preflop is poor IMO. I would struggle to call a shove there with QQ, and I would easily fold AK. Raising to 500 has a far higher expectation unless your opponents will call with TT, AQ, etc.

With stacks this short and this far from the money, anything that calls 500 should call a push, which could be on a very wide range.

[darkrider88 0]

Let's see...Pot is about 2,200, and it costs your 1,200 more to call.You only need to win here 33% of the time, so pot odds look favorable.This is a low stakes tourney, so a player's range for pushing on this board are huge. Your bet screams of a continuation bet (If you had flopped a good ace, you probably would have checked).With all the other pairs that are pushing, I think you have enough equity here to call. I'm making the call, only because it is early in the tourney and I like to take a chance for a stack to work with. I think pushing is creative, but the smaller raise probably has a higher EV.

[simo_8ball 0]

With stacks this short and this far from the money, anything that calls 500 should call a push, which could be on a very wide range.

What range would you personally call the push with?Would you fold 99/AQ/etc to the 500 bet?I can see a wide range calling the 500 but only a fairly slim range calling the shove. Shoving is a big overbet.Stacks are deep enough to play this postflop.

[copernicus 0]

What range would you personally call the push with?Would you fold 99/AQ/etc to the 500 bet?I can see a wide range calling the 500 but only a fairly slim range calling the shove. Shoving is a big overbet.Stacks are deep enough to play this postflop.

With 1000 in the pot and each player with 1900 behind, the stack/blind ratio is far less important than the fact that there is no room to maneuver post flop. A 3/4 pot bet commits 1/2 the starting stacks, so all of the money is probably going in on the flop.There is no hand that I would call 500 but fold to a push, because I know that once I commit the 500 the hand is going to be nearly impossible to get away from.

[Footballguru 0]

I would prob check/call and double him up. A check on his part on the flop would be more suspicious than a raise!