So..uh..what Was The Joke?

[DrawingDeadInDM 0]

can i squeeze your butt too?

Pretty much required.

[mk 11]

C'mon, Mike, you know me better than that.. I was over it before the first dozen replays of it hit the airwaves. BTW, it would've made me laugh if he had said that, word for word.

Heh, I knew you were. That's something else that's important to mention here. It's a good thing for the democrats that the gall darn Librul Media hasn't played this clip 6,248,968,743 times more than was required.

[Ron_Mexico 4,219]

fagscan I get a crotch squeeze in as well?

[Pot Odds RAC 23]

no the joke is that if you are dumb and don't study a situation you wind up making horrible decisions like invading iraq and winding up with a quagmire where tons of people die every day

Or win a war in a matter of weeks even though the media convinces the masses otherwise.

[mk 11]

Or win a war in a matter of weeks even though the media convinces the masses otherwise.

Mission Accomplished.

[keith crime 8]

Or win a war in a matter of weeks even though the media convinces the masses otherwise.

now that was funnyyou can catch a guy in a hole in a couple of weekswinning is much more subjectiveHome court advantage is huge in a war

[KONGOS 0]

KO...Click Here

[Pot Odds RAC 23]

...you can catch a guy in a hole in a couple of weeks...

...or topple a dangerous dictator who had killed tens of thousands of his own people, was a threat to the region, and continually defied UN Sanctions......and defeat an army that at one time was the region's strongest, best trained, and weaponed.......in doing so, you could limit civilian casualties and collateral damage to a minimum......you could also limit multi national coalition casualties to an amazingly low number......you could set up a new Democracy and give people a taste of freedom for the first time in their lives......you could help them hold free elections and continue to help them stabilize and rebuild. All with the (nearly) unanimous support of both houses of Congress a strong international coalition and UN sanctionsMission accomplished.

[Jeepster80125 0]

...or topple a dangerous dictator who had killed tens of thousands of his own people, was a threat to the region, and continually defied UN Sanctions......and defeated an army that at one time was the region's strongest, best trained, and weaponed.......in doing so, you could limit civilian casualties and collateral damage to a minimum......you could also limit multi national coalition casualties to an amazingly low number......you could set up a new Democracy and give people a taste of freedom for the first time in their lives......you cold help them hold free elections and continue to help them stabilize and rebuild. All with the (nearly) unanimous support of both houses of Congress a strong international coalition and UN sanctionsMission accomplished.

Well stated. I don't think lefties realize that the violence that is going on is more likely due to muslim terrorists advancing their agenda against the West in the easiest place possible, than Bush kissing dad's ass.It's easy to criticize the current regime, but does anyone really wish that Gore would have been in the white house on 9-11?

[keith crime 8]

...or topple a dangerous dictator who had killed tens of thousands of his own people, was a threat to the region, and continually defied UN Sanctions......and defeat an army that at one time was the region's strongest, best trained, and weaponed.......in doing so, you could limit civilian casualties and collateral damage to a minimum......you could also limit multi national coalition casualties to an amazingly low number......you could set up a new Democracy and give people a taste of freedom for the first time in their lives......you could help them hold free elections and continue to help them stabilize and rebuild. All with the (nearly) unanimous support of both houses of Congress a strong international coalition and UN sanctionsMission accomplished.

heh yeah he was so dangerous he was hiding in a hole in less than a month -let's ask this bin laden happy or upset at how the last 5 years have gone - i bet he can't believe how successful he's beennext time someone punches you hit them back don't kick your dog

[SilentSnow 1]

...or topple a dangerous dictator who had killed tens of thousands of his own people, was a threat to the region, and continually defied UN Sanctions......and defeat an army that at one time was the region's strongest, best trained, and weaponed.......in doing so, you could limit civilian casualties and collateral damage to a minimum......you could also limit multi national coalition casualties to an amazingly low number......you could set up a new Democracy and give people a taste of freedom for the first time in their lives......you could help them hold free elections and continue to help them stabilize and rebuild. All with the (nearly) unanimous support of both houses of Congress a strong international coalition and UN sanctionsMission accomplished.

If most republicans think like this then we are in trouble. Nearly every one of these points is highly suspect to completely delusional. Rather than restate what has been already said countless times in easy to find places, I'll just post one picture that shows you are utterly wrong.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Iraqatt...sofjuly2006.JPG

[brvheart 1,752]

If most republicans think like this then we are in trouble. Nearly every one of these points is highly suspect to completely delusional. Rather than restate what has been already said countless times in easy to find places, I'll just post one picture that shows you are utterly wrong.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Iraqatt...sofjuly2006.JPG

How does a graph on the number of attacks against the coalition have anything to do with ANY of the points the pot odds rac mentioned? Do you even read opposing view points before you start urinating your socialist crap all over?

...or topple a dangerous dictator who had killed tens of thousands of his own people, was a threat to the region, and continually defied UN Sanctions......and defeat an army that at one time was the region's strongest, best trained, and weaponed.......in doing so, you could limit civilian casualties and collateral damage to a minimum......you could also limit multi national coalition casualties to an amazingly low number......you could set up a new Democracy and give people a taste of freedom for the first time in their lives......you could help them hold free elections and continue to help them stabilize and rebuild. All with the (nearly) unanimous support of both houses of Congress a strong international coalition and UN sanctionsMission accomplished.

Please dispute ANY of the bolded parts. Thank you in advance.

[keith crime 8]

see this is why we don't have a political forum:)

[Jeepster80125 0]

see this is why we don't have a political forum:)

2 things you never, ever argue with "friends"Politics and religion. No one will ever concede, and it just gets ugly. That said, being a wealthy white male who owns his own business, I say "Vote Republican!" I hate thinking that if democrats had their way, I would pay even more of my hard earned money to people who don't have what I have. I worked hard to get to where I am, and I don't see any reason to take care of people who aren't as well off. Call me selfish, fine. It's funny, people who want to take from the rich and give to the poor, usually don't have much.Begin hate now.

[Love4hockey 0]

I don't want to start a debate, but I'm pretty sure Bush didn't get C's and D's. I thought he was an A student. Could be wrong though.

[LongLiveYorke 38]

Obviously not hard to dispute:

...or topple a dangerous dictator who had killed tens of thousands of his own people

Well, about 50 thousand have died in the few years since the war began, so that's not too much of an improvement. I don't see too much difference whether they die at the hands of a dictator or whether they die at the hands of terrorists, insurgents, or collateral damage

...and defeat an army that at one time was the region's strongest, best trained, and weaponed....

Well, they were pretty soft after the first gulf war. No one's arguing that the US has a good army. But we didn't defeat the real opposing army, which is the army of terrorists and insurgents that are still fighting against us.

...in doing so, you could limit civilian casualties and collateral damage to a minimum...

Again, 40,000 to 50,000 civilians killed as a result of the conflict. Also, a good amount of what infrastructure that they had was destroyed, limiting power, water, etc

...you could also limit multi national coalition casualties to an amazingly low number...

Easy to minimize ally casualties when we do all the work and take all the hurt.

...you could set up a new Democracy and give people a taste of freedom for the first time in their lives...

The current democracy is somewhat of a joke and will be until they can figure out exactly how Shiites, Sunnis, and Kurds will all fit together to govern the nation. Also, I don't consider the consistent threat of being suicide bombed that much freedom.

...you could help them hold free elections and continue to help them stabilize and rebuild.

Elections, yes. Stabilize, joke. Rebuild, somewhat.

All with the (nearly) unanimous support of both houses of Congress a strong international coalition and UN sanctions

Nearly unanimous support of congress is just flat out wrong, especially right now. The true extent of the coalition is questionable.

[SilentSnow 1]

How does a graph on the number of attacks against the coalition have anything to do with ANY of the points the pot odds rac mentioned? Do you even read opposing view points before you start urinating your socialist crap all over?QUOTE(Pot Odds RAC @ Thursday, November 2nd, 2006, 3:56 PM) *...or topple a dangerous dictator who had killed tens of thousands of his own people, was a threat to the region, and continually defied UN Sanctions......and defeat an army that at one time was the region's strongest, best trained, and weaponed.......in doing so, you could limit civilian casualties and collateral damage to a minimum......you could also limit multi national coalition casualties to an amazingly low number......you could set up a new Democracy and give people a taste of freedom for the first time in their lives......you could help them hold free elections and continue to help them stabilize and rebuild.All with the (nearly) unanimous support of both houses of Congress a strong international coalition and UN sanctionsMission accomplished.Please dispute ANY of the bolded parts. Thank you in advance.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Youre joking right? If you cant see how this graph has anything to do with these points then you really are crazy. It refutes the last 6 points that he makes. But for the sake of those who might not be so far gone, I'll give a brief rundown of why these points are wrong.Yes, Saddam killed thousands of people and defied UN sanctions. But the problem is that there are many other countries that have done this and worse, and we dont do anything about them. This obviously opens us up to charges of hypocrisy and lying about why we really invaded.At one time, maybe. But definitely not when we invaded. Since they were absolutely no threat to invade anyone with the constant attention from the US, this point is irrelevant anyway.The number is only low because there was an amazingly low amount of international support and troops.Freedom to die and live in total chaos is not how most people envision democracies.Not only arent they stabilizing, they are going in the wrong direction.The support was never that unanimous even in the US. The democrats went along because they didnt want to look antiwar after 9/11. The support dissolved years ago, and there never was a strong international coalition.

[keith crime 8]

I don't want to start a debate, but I'm pretty sure Bush didn't get C's and D's. I thought he was an A student. Could be wrong though.

i think both he and Kerrey were pretty bad studentsthere is article on Salon from one of Bush's MBA profs that said he taught Bush and another republican senator and the other guy was smart and open to idea and that Bush was basically the most callow student he ever had - he'd argue stuff be proven wrong and then deny he had said stuff and said he was pro viet nam but bragged about getting out of the warit's not a right vs left thing to me - they both disgust me and my opinions just get lower and lower - i hate the right's ideology - i hate the democrats lack of one or at least lack of guts to stand up for itnone of these guys care - they are all trying to make money and they are all trying to get re-elected and they'll blow any way that helps them do it

[Pot Odds RAC 23]

...The democrats went along because they didnt want to look antiwar after 9/11...

Now *thats* leadership!

...The support was never that unanimous even in the US... ...The support dissolved years ago, and there never was a strong international coalition.

...and that is revisionism

[Royal_Tour 0]

Hey, I got a new joke.So a soldier walks into a bar after he turns down a 3.5 million dollar contract to the arizona cardinals so he can fight in the war.a guy across from him says, Man what are you stupid?? and he says No but the guys who friendly fired at me are.baddum ching!!!!war what is it good for?. thats my new book

[Ron_Mexico 4,219]

war what is it good for?. thats my new book

Vat is that beeping?

[Pot Odds RAC 23]

Hey, I got a new joke.So a soldier walks into a bar after he turns down a 3.5 million dollar contract to the arizona cardinals so he can fight in the war.a guy across from him says, Man what are you stupid?? and he says No but the guys who friendly fired at me are.baddum ching!!!!war what is it good for?. thats my new book

Way to denegrate the actions and memory of an American hero.

[Royal_Tour 0]

Way to denegrate the actions and memory of an American hero.

You sir are a complete Moron.and not the cool kind either, the kind taht annoys everyone, which is much more meaningful

[Ron_Mexico 4,219]

Way to denegrate the actions and memory of an American hero.

didn't your precious administration lie and cover up the facts of his death to promote their war and agenda?ok, just checking.

[thrope 0]

i'll see you guys in north korea in a couple years. maybe we can be in the same unit