Take A Shot?

[The Bwaves 0]

Okay guys I'll give it to you straight.I've been playing poker for a good amount of time now. About half a decade. I understand the game. I understand the concepts of the game. I'm a solid player and I make a decent amount of profit but once again money is always an issue.I moved out of my house when I was 18 and I had been playing poker for almost 2 years already but never really ventured into the casino. Well I finally got my cherry popped and I've been a casino rat ever since. Back to my dilema. I definitly moved out of my house w/o enough financial support. I make $10 bucks an hour at my current job and it's seriously just not cutting it.I've thought about getting a better job but I honestly like my job. It has great benifits I've been here for over 3 years now and it's definitly my comfort zone. But at the end of every month I'm just a few bucks short.I'm currently at $500 for my part time BR should I seriously start concidering heading down to the B&M and playing $1/2 NL $50 max?I mean would I be over-extending myself? Could I make a decent part time profit with this kind of roll? Any advice would help me out.TheBwaves

[Royal_Tour 0]

Okay guys I'll give it to you straight.I've been playing poker for a good amount of time now. About half a decade. I understand the game. I understand the concepts of the game. I'm a solid player and I make a decent amount of profit but once again money is always an issue.I moved out of my house when I was 18 and I had been playing poker for almost 2 years already but never really ventured into the casino. Well I finally got my cherry popped and I've been a casino rat ever since. Back to my dilema. I definitly moved out of my house w/o enough financial support. I make $10 bucks an hour at my current job and it's seriously just not cutting it.I've thought about getting a better job but I honestly like my job. It has great benifits I've been here for over 3 years now and it's definitly my comfort zone. But at the end of every month I'm just a few bucks short.I'm currently at $500 for my part time BR should I seriously start concidering heading down to the B&M and playing $1/2 NL $50 max?I mean would I be over-extending myself? Could I make a decent part time profit with this kind of roll? Any advice would help me out.TheBwaves

K.honestly, i'm trying to be as serious as possible. This is a reality check.1 - 10 bucks an hour is ridiculous. No matter how cool it is.2- You can make a hella lot more dealing cards. (might not be for you though)3 - 500 is no way near enough.This isnt a brag, but i'm up 600 for this month @ live 1/2 nl and i hardly play.I've been 5 times this month and usually stay for 3 hours or so.The reason i even bothered telling you that is because Poker for a living isnt something i would even consider right nowGood luck

[Suited_Up 2]

$50 and Max shouldn't be in the same sentence together. That's kinda sad.That's all I've got.

[The Bwaves 0]

K.honestly, i'm trying to be as serious as possible. This is a reality check.1 - 10 bucks an hour is ridiculous. No matter how cool it is.2- You can make a hella lot more dealing cards. (might not be for you though)3 - 500 is no way near enough.This isnt a brag, but i'm up 600 for this month @ live 1/2 nl and i hardly play.I've been 5 times this month and usually stay for 3 hours or so.The reason i even bothered telling you that is because Poker for a living isnt something i would even consider right nowGood luck

Thanks for the reply.1,2,3 all make sense and I'm not taking them lightly.

$50 and Max shouldn't be in the same sentence together. That's kinda sad.That's all I've got.

Well the game I'm used to $1/3 Nl $100-300max but I'm not looking to play for that much they offer a 1/2 50 game that is easily beaten. It's for part time income not full time support.

[erac22 0]

10 bucks an hour is hardly worth working full time for. You should be able to multitable 100nl for a winrate twice that, assuming you're a decent nl holdem player. But in answer to your question, go for it, take the shot. If you were only making 10 bucks an hour, you can't possibly have that much to lose.erac

[Royal_Tour 0]

Thanks for the reply.1,2,3 all make sense and I'm not taking them lightly.Well the game I'm used to $1/3 Nl $100-300max but I'm not looking to play for that much they offer a 1/2 50 game that is easily beaten. It's for part time income not full time support.

10 bucks an hour is hardly worth working full time for. You should be able to multitable 100nl for a winrate twice that, assuming you're a decent nl holdem player. But in answer to your question, go for it, take the shot. If you were only making 10 bucks an hour, you can't possibly have that much to lose.erac

Bwaves, If you want to do this while still keeping your job, I say Yes.if you plan to quit your job, just make sure you can support yourself for a month, because if you arent winning after 2 weeks, its gonna be time to find another job.Not saying you should start winning right away, but without a cushion under your asss, you're gonna be stuck in 2 months time.And wihtout knowing your current "financial" backings, like parents and girlfriends/wives. etc.. u dont want to be living on the streets

[Suited_Up 2]

Bwaves, If you want to do this while still keeping your job, I say Yes.if you plan to quit your job, just make sure you can support yourself for a month, because if you arent winning after 2 weeks, its gonna be time to find another job.Not saying you should start winning right away, but without a cushion under your asss, you're gonna be stuck in 2 months time.And wihtout knowing your current "financial" backings, like parents and girlfriends/wives. etc.. u dont want to be living on the streets

QFT

[antistuff 0]

you will beat $10 an hour if you play four tables of .5/1 limit holdem with bonuses and rakeback. how do you think i quit my job and got a super part time one soley for health benefits?

[Dratj 0]

1/2 nl 50 max sounds like a weird game. I think they have it at the Luxor. There must be almost no post flop play in that game. Anyways, 500 bucks is not a big enough bankroll but if you are playing part time then it's ok. You could still easily go broke though. Probably better to play at least 1/2 nl with a 200 max buy in. Have minimum of 20 buy ins. 50 is better. So, you are aiming to have between 4000 and 10, 000 dollars as a bankroll to minimize risk of ruin if you are seriously playing pro. Further your education to get a better job and play poker part time.

[Fade2241 0]

Doing this is okay if you don’t have any serious personal obligations (ex: kids to feed, child support, alimony etc.) But you seriously need a new job dude – I made more than $10 per hour when I was 18…you probably don’t do anything at your job huh and that’s why you like it?

[GambleToWin 0]

Thanks for the reply.1,2,3 all make sense and I'm not taking them lightly.Well the game I'm used to $1/3 Nl $100-300max but I'm not looking to play for that much they offer a 1/2 50 game that is easily beaten. It's for part time income not full time support.

I agree what do you have to lose? If worst comes to worst you can go back to your job.

[The Bwaves 0]

Thanks for all the posts guys.If you guys havn't noticed I can work at my current job and post ALL day long on here w/o interruptions. I've actually had offers to go do other things but I enjoy what I do. I sell car parts for Saturn. I just know the industry. I've been lined up to be manager 3 times and got the shaft each time. Probably because I'm so young.I think I might give it a shot. It's only for some part time support you know?The casino I like to play at spreads many different limits but the low limit NL games are amazingly soft. They have a $1/2 $50 max, $1/3 $100-$300 max, $2/5 $200-$500 max. They're all fairly beatable. The 2/5 is a tougher game but I'm not in the mood to risk that much yet.Thanks again for all the support.

[mtdesmoines 3]

Okay guys I'll give it to you straight.I've been playing poker for a good amount of time now. About half a decade. I understand the game. I understand the concepts of the game. I'm a solid player and I make a decent amount of profit but once again money is always an issue.I moved out of my house when I was 18 and I had been playing poker for almost 2 years already but never really ventured into the casino. Well I finally got my cherry popped and I've been a casino rat ever since. Back to my dilema. I definitly moved out of my house w/o enough financial support. I make $10 bucks an hour at my current job and it's seriously just not cutting it.I've thought about getting a better job but I honestly like my job. It has great benifits I've been here for over 3 years now and it's definitly my comfort zone. But at the end of every month I'm just a few bucks short.I'm currently at $500 for my part time BR should I seriously start concidering heading down to the B&M and playing $1/2 NL $50 max?I mean would I be over-extending myself? Could I make a decent part time profit with this kind of roll? Any advice would help me out.TheBwaves

Five years of poker and your BR is at $500? You can drop $500 in three hours on bad beats at a casino. Don't suppose you can make up with the parents, can you? Get back on your feet? Gambling is not the answer to money problems. ....

[The Bwaves 0]

Five years of poker and your BR is at $500? You can drop $500 in three hours on bad beats at a casino. Don't suppose you can make up with the parents, can you? Get back on your feet? Gambling is not the answer to money problems. ....

True. I'll see what I can do. My father is an extreme drug user and my mother is a Jehovah's Witness so you all know how my life is......Greaaat...

[tskillz187 0]

I don't understand this post. Aren't you already playing for extra income?Isn't anyone that is serious about playing poker but not using it for their sole income playing to add to their money? You've got $500 I'd sit in the 1-3 game, they are likely just as donkilicious, play tight get it in ahead and hope to go on a little rush.I've played on shorter BRs. It's super stressfull though, I'd say to not play for a few weeks and try and get the bankroll up to 1000-1200 and then start playing 1-3nl. I am aware that this is still short for a bankroll, but if the game is sloppy enough and you are tight enough you should be ok.

[The Bwaves 0]

I don't understand this post. Aren't you already playing for extra income?Isn't anyone that is serious about playing poker but not using it for their sole income playing to add to their money? You've got $500 I'd sit in the 1-3 game, they are likely just as donkilicious, play tight get it in ahead and hope to go on a little rush.I've played on shorter BRs. It's super stressfull though, I'd say to not play for a few weeks and try and get the bankroll up to 1000-1200 and then start playing 1-3nl. I am aware that this is still short for a bankroll, but if the game is sloppy enough and you are tight enough you should be ok.

I'm not playing everyday part time. I've been playing 1-3 times bi-weekly. I think people are misunderstanding my BR. I havn't ever built up my BR. I always, don't misread here I ALWAYS have to spend it. It's not that I'm not capable of building a BR it's that my expenses always just jump up a few bucks or some fee or some bill or some fine.Let me open up a different line of questioning;Should I play 1/2 everyday to try and supplement my income? Or should I continue to play just a few times per week and spend what I make on bs bills and stippers and blow?

[socalpoker_j 1]

Thanks for all the posts guys.If you guys havn't noticed I can work at my current job and post ALL day long on here w/o interruptions. I've actually had offers to go do other things but I enjoy what I do. I sell car parts for Saturn. I just know the industry. I've been lined up to be manager 3 times and got the shaft each time. Probably because I'm so young.I think I might give it a shot. It's only for some part time support you know?The casino I like to play at spreads many different limits but the low limit NL games are amazingly soft. They have a $1/2 $50 max, $1/3 $100-$300 max, $2/5 $200-$500 max. They're all fairly beatable. The 2/5 is a tougher game but I'm not in the mood to risk that much yet.Thanks again for all the support.

What casino would you be playing this at? Barona, Viejas, Sycuan? Why not keep saving until you have 1500-2000 dollars and sit in the really juicy 1/2 or 2/4 games at Sycuan? How about just putting that money online at Tilt or one of the other sites that are going to stay in the US, you could have a wider range of game selection....

[The Bwaves 0]

What casino would you be playing this at? Barona, Viejas, Sycuan? Why not keep saving until you have 1500-2000 dollars and sit in the really juicy 1/2 or 2/4 games at Sycuan? How about just putting that money online at Tilt or one of the other sites that are going to stay in the US, you could have a wider range of game selection....

Well the specific place I was planning on playing daily was Barona concidering it's the closest. I really like the games at Sycuan though. I've thought about the online thing but I'm a more alert player live. I can handle myself online but I can just see myself playing out of my BR so much more likely because of the game availability.But yeah I would sit w/ 2k but everytime I get my roll up to a grand I have to ****** half of it on rent and bills.

[mtdesmoines 3]

True. I'll see what I can do. My father is an extreme drug user and my mother is a Jehovah's Witness so you all know how my life is......Greaaat...

OK -- DON'T move home. And I'm serious about that if what you said is true. Find a roommate or a sober relative.

But yeah I would sit w/ 2k but everytime I get my roll up to a grand I have to ****** half of it on rent and bills.

But if I understand correctly, this is the way you'd be living your "part-time job."

[socalpoker_j 1]

Well the specific place I was planning on playing daily was Barona concidering it's the closest. I really like the games at Sycuan though. I've thought about the online thing but I'm a more alert player live. I can handle myself online but I can just see myself playing out of my BR so much more likely because of the game availability.But yeah I would sit w/ 2k but everytime I get my roll up to a grand I have to ****** half of it on rent and bills.

Yeah, I like Barona's room its pretty clean and I will occasionally play in the 300-1k max game when they get it going. I have seen the $50 game in passing before and can always hear all the "oohs and ahhs" loudest from that table, (which usually correlates with bad beat city) since you know the game I'm sure you are aware of the donkness of that game. I don't think there is much room at all for play in that game with only being able to buy-in $50 max, if you raise with a hand you are basically committed to it. Why not sit at 4/8? The people that play that game are terrible and you can make a couple hundred here or there in that game if you know where/when to pick your spots... where do you live Lakeside, El Cajon?

[DaBruins 0]

Well the specific place I was planning on playing daily was Barona concidering it's the closest. I really like the games at Sycuan though. I've thought about the online thing but I'm a more alert player live. I can handle myself online but I can just see myself playing out of my BR so much more likely because of the game availability.But yeah I would sit w/ 2k but everytime I get my roll up to a grand I have to ****** half of it on rent and bills.

I LOVE the games at Sycuan. The 2/4 300 Max is pretty easy game, and the 1/2 100 Max is really soft. I played this weekend and was not doing well in 2/4 (down 100 after 7 hours of play), but i went to the 1/2 that had tons of chips on the table and i won like 1100 in a little over 2 hours. I've done the whole 10 buy-in thing, but that's only cause I was taking shots and it wouldn't really hurt me if things didn't work out. Your situation sounds different.....if you think you can make manager or whatever at your place, I'd keep going at it and try speed that process up.

[The Bwaves 0]

Yeah, I like Barona's room its pretty clean and I will occasionally play in the 300-1k max game when they get it going. I have seen the $50 game in passing before and can always hear all the "oohs and ahhs" loudest from that table, (which usually correlates with bad beat city) since you know the game I'm sure you are aware of the donkness of that game. I don't think there is much room at all for play in that game with only being able to buy-in $50 max, if you raise with a hand you are basically committed to it. Why not sit at 4/8? The people that play that game are terrible and you can make a couple hundred here or there in that game if you know where/when to pick your spots... where do you live Lakeside, El Cajon?

Barona is the closest to me that's anything decent to play at. I live in Escondido so it's a journey no matter what. I've played the 50 game a few times but when I was playing it was for fun not for money. Lots of suited connectors and kq kj k10 q10 just limping around since the post flop play was so bad.I like 4/8 it's just that I've been straying away from limit. My profits in NL are outstanding compared to limit. Limit just takes a lot of patience. Something that comes easy to me so it's no problem I just like NL much better.But yeah Escondido.

I LOVE the games at Sycuan. The 2/4 300 Max is pretty easy game, and the 1/2 100 Max is really soft. I played this weekend and was not doing well in 2/4 (down 100 after 7 hours of play), but i went to the 1/2 that had tons of chips on the table and i won like 1100 in a little over 2 hours. I've done the whole 10 buy-in thing, but that's only cause I was taking shots and it wouldn't really hurt me if things didn't work out. Your situation sounds different.....if you think you can make manager or whatever at your place, I'd keep going at it and try speed that process up.

Yeah the first time I played poker in a casino I played at Sycuan and won like $200 at 3/6.A few months ago I went to Sycuan and destroyed the $1/2 $100 max game. It wasn't like a killing but I made like $500 in a 8 hour session which was good for me. I'm trying to work everything out here at work.

[Dratj 0]

Keep playing part time then. Seems like you are doing fine.

[The Bwaves 0]

Keep playing part time then. Seems like you are doing fine.

How often should I play? 3-5 days a week?

[bear187 0]

This might sound a little bit ****-ish, and believe me that it's not intended to be at all, but do you think that maybe if you focused your free time spent posting here on maybe thinking up some ways to improve processes or even your own personal performance at your job that maybe you wouldn't have gotten passed up for that promotion? Obviously I don't know the conditions of your work environment but I do know that initiative goes a long way, especially when being considered for raises/promotions. Just a thought. I'd move back in with the 'rents if they'd let you stay for free and build up a BR to go crush a juicy game. Ignore your father as much as possible and keep the gambling away from your mom. Easy for me to say once again, because I know nothing about how serious it is/could be, but just an option to explore. I wish you the best of luck, I know how it is.