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So I have no idea why I played the hand SOOOOOOOO badly, but for some reason when im new to a card room I play my first few hands very tenative. Anyways, to my donkey play/not play. I want to know where you guys would have pushed and how hard. Blinds are at 25/50 and everyone is basically at their 2500 starting chips. I have about 2900. I get delt AKo in 3rd pos. UTG raises to 350(he bought in early and got an extra 1k), call, I call, and two other callers,button fold, then sb and bb call. The flop comes KJ2, sb & bb check, guy bets 350, fold, i call, fold, fold, sb calls, bb folds. Turn coms 2 (KJ22) no flush draw out, sb checks, guy bets 800, i call, sb folds. River a T (KJ22T), guy goes all in, and reluctantly call knowing i played the hand like a scared donkey *** newb...he has KT. At first I was worried bout JJ, but if that was the case I shoulda raised to find out where I was, but i didnt, lol. I know I know I know, played it SOOOO bad, I dont know why, lol. Anyways, flame away. I just want to know where I should have made my move and for how much?

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So I have no idea why I played the hand SOOOOOOOO badly, but for some reason when im new to a card room I play my first few hands very tenative. Anyways, to my donkey play/not play. I want to know where you guys would have pushed and how hard. Blinds are at 25/50 and everyone is basically at their 2500 starting chips. I have about 2900. I get delt AKo in 3rd pos. UTG raises to 350(he bought in early and got an extra 1k), call, I call, and two other callers,button fold, then sb and bb call. The flop comes KJ2, sb & bb check, guy bets 350, fold, i call, fold, fold, sb calls, bb folds. Turn coms 2 (KJ22) no flush draw out, sb checks, guy bets 800, i call, sb folds. River a T (KJ22T), guy goes all in, and reluctantly call knowing i played the hand like a scared donkey *** newb...he has KT. At first I was worried bout JJ, but if that was the case I shoulda raised to find out where I was, but i didnt, lol. I know I know I know, played it SOOOO bad, I dont know why, lol. Anyways, flame away. I just want to know where I should have made my move and for how much?
First I would have pushed before the tournament and also got an extra 1K if that was availab.e Then, I probably would have went all in after the 350 and call preflop. If I didn't, I would have on the turn when he bet 350 into you, at which point he would have called, and you'd have got sucked out on anyway. Moving along.
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Unless you jam the pot on the flop I don't think the Villian is getting away from this hand, which you don't want him to, you have him trapped, drawing to 3 outs. If he rivers the 10, he rivers the 10, there is no way around that. You played the hand right, you just got sucked out on. You're worried about the results too much. Had the river not been a 10 you would've thought you played they hand right, which you did. The only arugment I can see you making is to raise on the flop, but again, I don't see him folding, which is a good thing anyway. Unless this tourney was some sort of an all in fest, you played it right. Your stack was fairly deep with 2900 and blinds at 25/50. Who the hell raises to 350 with 25/50 blinds?*edit* Push the turn. I didn't realize calling only left you with 1,400 chips. Villian is likely still calling, but you have him in very bad shape.

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ya i really wanted to push on the turn, but i figured if i pushed there i woulda been commited to the pot, and since there was so much in the pot i thought he was gonna call no matter what and for some reason i put him on jj and gave him way to much credit for the hand. Still tho, i CANT believe that i didnt push one, AAAAAAAAAH, thats such a shitty play, lol. If i was really thinkin i shoulda just said...i got you...i got top top............lol. win or loose that hand tho, i know i woulda played it bad/tenative. which isnt my style, dont know why i played so passive on this hand.

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It is safe to say you played this hand like a sissy girl. You need to throw in a feeler raise to find out where you are at in the hand. On an unrelated note, anyone who lives in Chicago land area I highly encourage you to go play in the Hollywood Casino Wensday tourney, filled with retired old people who have no idea what they are doing. Their are very few good players there, I know this how, My Dad has made the final table 4 out of 7 weeks and he had to call me the first day to ask if a flush was better than a straight. Buy in 160 dollars be their at 10:30 or so AM. Just a little FYI. Oh by the way Allen Cuningham's girlfriend looks like she fell from the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down and then someone came up and hit her with ugly stick mutiple times. :club:

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It is safe to say you played this hand like a sissy girl. You need to throw in a feeler raise to find out where you are at in the hand.
QFT...i basically suck at life, and i cant play .25/.50 to pick myself up anymore, lol...that SUCKS.
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I would have raised the flop at least. That should clear out some of the guys behind you and let you know where you stand in regards to the original bettor.
Raising that flop is absolutely essential. Period.
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I don't think you couldve reraised preflop. UTG raised to 7x the BB and then somebody called! On the flop I would've raised to see where I'm at. (If he has JJ he'll probably move in and then you get a chance to throw it away) However, if your gonna just call on the flop b/c you think he might have JJ, then you gotta stick with that and just call on the turn. Once he moved in on the river you felt you were pot commited and had to call. You did have top top w/ AK. You played the hand badly, according to what he had, but he's the real donk raisen 7x the BB UTG w/ K10, what a donk!

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I don't think you couldve reraised preflop. UTG raised to 7x the BB and then somebody called! On the flop I would've raised to see where I'm at. (If he has JJ he'll probably move in and then you get a chance to throw it away) However, if your gonna just call on the flop b/c you think he might have JJ, then you gotta stick with that and just call on the turn. Once he moved in on the river you felt you were pot commited and had to call. You did have top top w/ AK. You played the hand badly, according to what he had, but he's the real donk raisen 7x the BB UTG w/ K10, what a donk!
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a few things..1) you dont want to call off your tournament 2) u want to find out where u are3) tp tk 5 handed (5h i think?) is not neccesarily the best handSo, id flat call on flop and fold to a raise from behind. If it is hu, when he bets, id push it ai if i think he hasnt it, or fold if i think he has it. calling is worst coz u dont know where u are.hope this helped :club:

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I disagree with a lot of the people saying either reraise preflop or jam on the flop, I think that would be a big mistake. I would have probably thrown my hand away before the flop. You have an UTG player raising 7x the BB and someone flat calling behind him. To me this is not the position I want to be in with a drawing hand. To add to that you still have several players behind you still to act that may reraise behind you. On the flop I would be pretty wary about getting overly involved with the hand as well. You have TPTK, but you in against 4 or 5 other people. Chances are that flop helped someone with either 2 pair with KJ or a straight draw or (given the preflop action) a set, in which case you are in real trouble. When the orginal raiser bets out you are opening the door to trouble by flat calling. What if someone behind you raises, or one of the early players goes for a check raise? Then you just getting way in over your head. I can understand that it looks good hitting one of your cards with AK, but in a multiway pot with two broadway cards, chances are that top pair is going to lose you money in the long run.

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I disagree with a lot of the people saying either reraise preflop or jam on the flop, I think that would be a big mistake. I would have probably thrown my hand away before the flop. You have an UTG player raising 7x the BB and someone flat calling behind him. To me this is not the position I want to be in with a drawing hand. To add to that you still have several players behind you still to act that may reraise behind you. On the flop I would be pretty wary about getting overly involved with the hand as well. You have TPTK, but you in against 4 or 5 other people. Chances are that flop helped someone with either 2 pair with KJ or a straight draw or (given the preflop action) a set, in which case you are in real trouble. When the orginal raiser bets out you are opening the door to trouble by flat calling. What if someone behind you raises, or one of the early players goes for a check raise? Then you just getting way in over your head. I can understand that it looks good hitting one of your cards with AK, but in a multiway pot with two broadway cards, chances are that top pair is going to lose you money in the long run.
You forgot the SW at the end of your post.
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Oh by the way Allen Cuningham's girlfriend looks like she fell from the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down and then someone came up and hit her with ugly stick mutiple times. :club:
Reminds me of a time when I was at Nationals for high school rodeo, and we were waiting for the awards to be handed out for the first round. This girl walks up to one of my friends and he says," Are you ok? That looks like it hurt." She asks, "Why?" and he replies, "Because somebody beat you up with the ugly stick!"
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if it's a rebuy tournament, i'm jamming preflop every time.if it's a freezeout, or as played, i jam the flop. if not...i jam the turn for sure. the betting does not indicate a KJ-type hand, MAYBE AA, but being up against AA, KK, JJ in this spot this early in a live tournament full of huge donks would be a huge cooler. i'm fine with getting it in here.the river is actually a very bad one for you. now a lot of hands beat you: AA, KK, JJ, KJ, like before, but now also 1010, AQ, KT, Q9 (which is unlikely to have gotten this far). i am significantly less likely to like getting the money in on the river than on any previous street.

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a few things..So, id flat call on flop and fold to a raise from behind.
Not raising this flop is criminal.
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It is safe to say you played this hand like a sissy girl. You need to throw in a feeler raise to find out where you are at in the hand.
no.In a crazy live 7x BB preflop raise that gets flat called by 7 players?What, raise to 900 and fold?*************Jmoney:you idea is fine if we were HU preflop.To let him bet off his chips and maybe min loss to AA.However, we have to raise flop to protect our hand from the 6 other preflop callers*************************Raise flop to anywhere from 1500 to all inAnd get it all in on any turn.*****************************************************
a few things..1) you dont want to call off your tournament 2) u want to find out where u are3) tp tk 5 handed (5h i think?) is not neccesarily the best handSo, id flat call on flop and fold to a raise from behind. If it is hu, when he bets, id push it ai if i think he hasnt it, or fold if i think he has it. calling is worst coz u dont know where u are.hope this helped :club:
it would if you told me your userame and site you play on?***************
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