given1982 0 Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Villain is 77/12/0.54 over 77 hands. He was willing to call almost any bet with almost any 2 cards, but when he raised he usually had some kind of hand. Thoughts?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)MP ($192.75)CO ($53.90)Button ($81.50)SB ($99)Hero ($134.50)UTG ($131.10)Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, Q. 1 fold, MP calls $1, CO raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $9, MP calls $8, CO calls $6.Flop: ($27.50) Q, 3, 5(3 players)Hero bets $20, MP raises to $60, CO folds, Hero raises to $125.5 Link to post Share on other sites
subsin 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 dont see how you can get away from this hand, you have every hand beat except flopped flush, and we can improve to a boat, would you really lay that down? maybe he had AKo w A ? thought his two overs were good? Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I play this the same. You're still 35% against a made flush. Link to post Share on other sites
Pot Odds RAC 23 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 That's a one suited board Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Villain is 77/12/0.54 over 77 hands. He was willing to call almost any bet with almost any 2 cards, but when he raised he usually had some kind of hand. Thoughts?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)MP ($192.75)CO ($53.90)Button ($81.50)SB ($99)Hero ($134.50)UTG ($131.10)Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, Q. 1 fold, MP calls $1, CO raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $9, MP calls $8, CO calls $6.Flop: ($27.50) Q, 3, 5(3 players)Hero bets $20, MP raises to $60, CO folds, Hero raises to $125.5 K..134.5 - 9(preflop) = 125.5125.50 - 20 (c-bet) = 105.5 left for push? Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 K..134.5 - 9(preflop) = 125.5125.50 - 20 (c-bet) = 105.5 left for push?What's your point? Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 What's your point?What was yours?A simple clarification was all I was asking. I was trying to confirm that we had absolutely no fold equity, though, it largely doesn't matter. Push, whatever..Sigh when you see his BS flush.I like checking this flop, much better than leading out. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 What was yours?A simple clarification was all I was asking. I was trying to confirm that we had absolutely no fold equity, though, it largely doesn't matter. Push, whatever..Sigh when you see his BS flush.I like checking this flop, much better than leading out.I thought you were misunderstanding the bet sizes. You are correct that we have no fold equity. However, we aren't folding this to the raise, and we can't legitimately call and see a turn. I see pushing as the only play. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I like checking this flop, much better than leading out.Always so vague.What's our plan after we check, and villain bets $20? Link to post Share on other sites
DonkSlayer 1 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Always so vague.What's our plan after we check, and villain bets $20?Raise. If he leads.DrawingDead could've said it the same ol' way instead of being "vague"....With that raise, only hands that call you, beat you. Link to post Share on other sites
given1982 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 With that raise, only hands that call you, beat you.You might think so, but this guy really liked to call. He called and turned over Qc5c. Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I thought you were misunderstanding the bet sizes. You are correct that we have no fold equity. However, we aren't folding this to the raise, and we can't legitimately call and see a turn. I see pushing as the only play...Strangely, I never suggested folding it? Always so vague.What's our plan after we check, and villain bets $20?Push.Raise. If he leads.DrawingDead could've said it the same ol' way instead of being "vague"....not sure what this means?Maybe I just assume that if I check OOP with top set on a monotone board people will understand that my intent is to raise? That I assume, wrongly(apparently), you guys know I'm not check/folding or simply calling down. Link to post Share on other sites
cwik 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 What was yours?A simple clarification was all I was asking. I was trying to confirm that we had absolutely no fold equity, though, it largely doesn't matter. Push, whatever..Sigh when you see his BS flush.I like checking this flop, much better than leading out. There's no way you can check this flop, your just begging to be out drawn on. And doing so tells you nothing. If he did flop he flush, he is just as likely to slow play it on the flop as he to bet it, so then pushing on the turn instead of the flop just gives your oppenent more chances to hit is nut flush draw or get away cheaply.I think you played it fine. Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 There's no way you can check this flop, your just begging to be out drawn on. And doing so tells you nothing. If he did flop he flush, he is just as likely to slow play it on the flop as he to bet it, so then pushing on the turn instead of the flop just gives your oppenent more chances to hit is nut flush draw or get away cheaply.I think you played it fine.I wonder how some of you guys sleep at night with all those monsters under the bed. Link to post Share on other sites
MasterLJ 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 ZOMG, 77 VPIP?Push here AINEC.Well-played by OP. Link to post Share on other sites
cwik 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I wonder how some of you guys sleep at night with all those monsters under the bed.How is that playing scared? the OP played it fine, got all his money in a +EV situation. Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 How is that playing scared? the OP played it fine, got all his money in a +EV situation.I wasn't referencing the way the OP played the hand..nevermind. Link to post Share on other sites
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