mkeller3086 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 party 100 nlHero $150BB $100Hero dealt A A on button.Hero opens for $3.5, BB callsFlop (2players, $7)K Q 9 BB checks, Hero bets $5, BB c/r to $13, Hero? Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchtime 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Any reads on how villain plays? kind of difficult to make a decision without knowing villains style but to me since it was such a weak raise on such a coordinated board i think villain might have a flush draw. A set would have protected his hand with a much bigger raise and i think he would do the same with any two pair combinations. Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Looks like KJ or some other pair and str8 draw. the small c/r leads me to belive he doesnt really like his hand cause of all the draws but he wants to try and get a little more valueIf he has something like KJ I dont want him drawing, push Link to post Share on other sites
mkeller3086 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Author Share Posted September 7, 2006 Looks like KJ or some other pair and str8 draw. the small c/r leads me to belive he doesnt really like his hand cause of all the draws but he wants to try and get a little more valueIf he has something like KJ I dont want him drawing, pushi was thinking the exact oppostie w/ the c/ri thought it meant a huge hand.......i was so close to folding i had to basically force myself off the fold button, convincing myself that folding was too passive. I just wasn't ready to play a big pot here. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 i was thinking the exact oppostie w/ the c/ri thought it meant a huge hand.......i was so close to folding i had to basically force myself off the fold button, convincing myself that folding was too passive. I just wasn't ready to play a big pot here.Most of the time this C/R is simply top pair / decent kicker. I've seen this a ton at these limits. You raise KK flop J 7 4 and you get C/R with AJ. It happens quite a bit.Of course we have to know a lil about our opponent to take advantage here. Otherwise we are calling down. Link to post Share on other sites
mkeller3086 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Author Share Posted September 7, 2006 so for the rest of the hand........BB rasies to $13, Hero callsTurn (2 players, ~$32)4 BB bets $18, Hero callsRiver (2players, $68)7 BB bets $38, Hero calls? Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchtime 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 so for the rest of the hand........BB rasies to $13, Hero callsTurn (2 players, ~$32)4 BB bets $18, Hero callsRiver (2players, $68)7 BB bets $38, Hero calls?I really dont like our hand since villain didnt slow down whatsoever when the club hit the turn. i guess a hand like k-j would be possible for villain to have but im generally folding this. Link to post Share on other sites
MasterLJ 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 so for the rest of the hand........BB rasies to $13, Hero callsTurn (2 players, ~$32)4 BB bets $18, Hero callsRiver (2players, $68)7 BB bets $38, Hero calls?On the river you push. If he's got the str flush, he's an idiot. Link to post Share on other sites
pokerfan1080 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 On the river you push. If he's got the str flush, he's an idiot.Straight flush? Link to post Share on other sites
_Great_Dane_ 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 On the river you push. If he's got the str flush, he's an idiot.If he's got the straight flush, he's a cheater.Flop was K clubs, Q clubs, 9 spades. Link to post Share on other sites
MasterLJ 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 ZOMG, glasses for the win. I thought it came down all clubs on the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
DonkSlayer 1 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 I think the river is a fold. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 I think the river is a fold.getting 2.8 to 1????hell the knowledge of what villian had is worth more than the bet Link to post Share on other sites
DonkSlayer 1 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 getting 2.8 to 1????hell the knowledge of what villian had is worth more than the betI really don't like the half-pot on the turn and then the value on the river. The Villain isn't scared a bit of the flush. I think TP checks the river. Link to post Share on other sites
MasterLJ 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 This is absolutely read dependent. Link to post Share on other sites
mkeller3086 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Author Share Posted September 7, 2006 getting 2.8 to 1????hell the knowledge of what villian had is worth more than the betso i'm not a donkey for calling down after the flop, esp. calling the river? Link to post Share on other sites
Mattnxtc 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 so i'm not a donkey for calling down after the flop, esp. calling the river?i personally probably raise him on the turn...His play is pretty standard for any king heads up Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 i personally probably raise him on the turn...His play is pretty standard for any king heads upFold to a push? Link to post Share on other sites
DrZebra 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 i personally probably raise him on the turn...His play is pretty standard for any king heads upOn the turn we have no better idea of where we are but have invested more money!We want to reraise the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
mkeller3086 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Author Share Posted September 8, 2006 Fold to a push?any raise gives us pot odds to call all in w/ the nut flush draw and pair Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 any raise gives us pot odds to call all in w/ the nut flush draw and pairAh, missed that.I think I still prefer reraising the flop and folding to a push though.- Zach Link to post Share on other sites
mkeller3086 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Author Share Posted September 8, 2006 Ah, missed that.I think I still prefer reraising the flop and folding to a push though.- Zachme too. but i suck at poker so i take alternate lines Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 me too. but i suck at poker so i take alternate linesI do too.I would never do that in the moment...lol Link to post Share on other sites
fckthis 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Call down here is fine. If we raise him on the flop again, he will fold the worst hand, and pushes the best. Link to post Share on other sites
mkeller3086 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Author Share Posted September 8, 2006 Call down here is fine. If we raise him on the flop again, he will fold the worst hand, and pushes the best.calling down gets very expensive though.reraising gives us the visibility we could really use right now.....i don't know- it just seems like the only time i get action on aces is when i'm beat Link to post Share on other sites
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