OHarny 0 Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Daniel Buddy,I love reading your columns and watching your blogs. I understand your being upset and believe you have every right to be. I just think not playing is somewhat cutting your nose off to spite your face. Your reasoning is just but I think your voice will be more loudly heard from inside the event than from outside. Tear the tourney a new one by making every final table and using every interview to make your opinions none. Whatever your decision is I will be still pulling for you and checking on your progress every day. I feel like I have a friend in you playing at the tournement and I want you to do well and continue to make those final tables. I think back to Doyle Brunson and the years he boycotted the tournement to back his friend. You can't get those years or tourneys back. Make your voice heard loud and clear from inside the WSOP. Take care and Best of Luck the rest of the way however far that is!!!OHarny Link to post Share on other sites
ricker 0 Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 while this is a misguided attempt to try and talk to DN....he does bring up a valid point. Skipping the rest of the events does seem...counterintuitive. I agree wholeheartedly the way Harrahs has treated players this year is DISGUSTING. However I think what you said about cutting the nose off to spite the face applies here. Either way, Harrahs sucks for what they're doing to this pretigious series of tourneys.... Link to post Share on other sites
missIdaho 1 Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 I agree with some of what you said, but at some point some one needs to take a stand. Some one has to get their attention. Continuing to play by their rules (or lack of) isn't going to get the point across. Link to post Share on other sites
OHarny 0 Posted July 17, 2006 Author Share Posted July 17, 2006 Misguided why? I don't care if DN responds I just want him to simmer down and make the best decision. I also want him to continue playing for selfish reasons in that I like rooting for him and if he doesn't play then I feel like I have lost something also. Link to post Share on other sites
DNIQUE420 0 Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Daniel Buddy,I love reading your columns and watching your blogs. I understand your being upset and believe you have every right to be. I just think not playing is somewhat cutting your nose off to spite your face. Your reasoning is just but I think your voice will be more loudly heard from inside the event than from outside. Tear the tourney a new one by making every final table and using every interview to make your opinions none. Whatever your decision is I will be still pulling for you and checking on your progress every day. I feel like I have a friend in you playing at the tournement and I want you to do well and continue to make those final tables. I think back to Doyle Brunson and the years he boycotted the tournement to back his friend. You can't get those years or tourneys back. Make your voice heard loud and clear from inside the WSOP. Take care and Best of Luck the rest of the way however far that is!!!OHarny Daniel will continue to play poker I just think he wont play in the wsop events I mean how wrong is it to change something like that...I also belive the casino will run better as the years go on so many people are starting to play poker they are getting greedy themselves. Link to post Share on other sites
poker_curler 0 Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Am I the only person who understands what and how to make a statement....hunger strikes don't screw the illegal wardens in guantanamo, unionized workers who go on strike aren't turning their backs on their wages and lives for often months to screw teh company, their trying to prove that their willing to sacrifice themselves for the betterment of the whole. DN is protesting the event by saying that he will forfeit his opportunities at sponsorship and prestige of WSOP final tables in an attempt to announce his dismay at the organization. I believe (although i don't have 10G tied up) that if DN and Harry and others truly want to make a point, they'll allow themselves to be blinded out of the main event while at the same time going to EVERY SINGLE TV camera broadcasting the events stating their dismay... It would also help if some of the commentators, celebrities and analysts also began organizing themselves during their broadcasts as a means of getting the message out to payperview and ESPN. Link to post Share on other sites
Spademan 94 Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Am I the only person who understands what a and how to make a statement.Apparently there may be no person. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Misguided why? I don't care if DN responds I just want him to simmer down and make the best decision. I also want him to continue playing for selfish reasons in that I like rooting for him and if he doesn't play then I feel like I have lost something also. You feel like you've lost what, exactly? Your self respect? Link to post Share on other sites
sholden 0 Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 I believe (although i don't have 10G tied up) that if DN and Harry and others truly want to make a point, they'll allow themselves to be blinded out of the main event while at the same time going to EVERY SINGLE TV camera broadcasting the events stating their dismay... It would also help if some of the commentators, celebrities and analysts also began organizing themselves during their broadcasts as a means of getting the message out to payperview and ESPN.The wonders of editing will result in any on-camera protests being removed before anyone sees them anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
poker_curler 0 Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 thx for the heads up on the typo, correction made....curious, i've made 5 bolshevik statements so far with no one creating debate...wtf, i'm trying to get some heads turning and people talking before declared right. Link to post Share on other sites
OHarny 0 Posted July 18, 2006 Author Share Posted July 18, 2006 You feel like you've lost what, exactly? Your self respect?I understand you having such a bad attitude with a face like that. I just don't understand why people are so fricking nasty in their replies. You act like someone should not be bummed if their favorite NFL team just got knocked out of the playoffs or if their favorite golfer just missed the cut. Daniel gives us alot of good info on his play and alot of other things surrounding his play and I enjoy that. I know alot of other people do also. If he doesn't play then we miss out on the information. If that means I have no self respect then you have a warped idea about what self respect is. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 3 years from now will anyone say that the bracelet won today aren't the same as the bracelets won last year?WSOP is once a year, there will be 11 months to argue about the way it was ran, and a better chance to make an organized voice regarding problems.Go play, nothing better than having someone that's mad at you pay you money. Link to post Share on other sites
PotDragon 0 Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 More and more I find that I agree with Balloon guy...strange. Link to post Share on other sites
sholden 0 Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 3 years from now will anyone say that the bracelet won today aren't the same as the bracelets won last year?WSOP is once a year, there will be 11 months to argue about the way it was ran, and a better chance to make an organized voice regarding problems.Go play, nothing better than having someone that's mad at you pay you money.Except they don't pay you, you pay them for the priveledge. Link to post Share on other sites
TheWatchMan 0 Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 i think both forms of protest have their merits.but i think this is a relevant example.when mohammed ali was being mistreated by the US government, he didn't boycott boxing.he tried to rattle the cage from the inside by being the greatest ever.ane he did, and he was.maybe hurting harrahs like this would be a good option for all the better players. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 More and more I find that I agree with Balloon guy...strange.Come to the dark side......vote republicanExcept they don't pay you, you pay them for the priveledge.Not when you win Link to post Share on other sites
sholden 0 Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Not when you winYes when you win.The WSOP organisers don't care who wins, they ge their juice no matter who wins. And they certainly don't lose any money to the players... Link to post Share on other sites
rsmbox 1 Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 while this is a misguided attempt to try and talk to DN....he does bring up a valid point. Skipping the rest of the events does seem...counterintuitive. I agree wholeheartedly the way Harrahs has treated players this year is DISGUSTING. However I think what you said about cutting the nose off to spite the face applies here. Either way, Harrahs sucks for what they're doing to this pretigious series of tourneys....harrah's ent. mistreating their players/dealers? unheard of... Link to post Share on other sites
fleung22 1 Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 I was thinking of this scenario too.If you're going to play the Main Event then you mind as well keep pluggin away at the smaller events.Obviously ESPN and Harrah's will attempt to screen negative publicity but how about this scenario.If Daniel ended up making a whole bunch of final tables and maybe win a couple...how can they possibly edit him? Wouldn't it be weird to not hear a word from DN?At the end of the day fighting Daniel is a really REALLY bad idea. You don't have to be a fan of Daniel to even know who he is. He has a column in my Friday Toronto Sun sports page, he's on TV in HSP, WPT, and WSOP...he's got a forum, online poker, video game and Pepsi commercial.The battle with the pros will not only hurt the image of Harrah's and WSOP but poker in general. Link to post Share on other sites
blakheart 3 Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 The problem with a protest by a small group of Pros (Daniel and Harry) is that it simply will not be noticed. Does anyone notice that Howard Lederer and Chris Fuergeson do not play WPT events? Of course not, because lots of players do not make the final table. It is fine ot boycott the WSOP if you do not want to partake in an event that you have problems with, but it is unlikely to effect the WSOP at all. Link to post Share on other sites
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