kers2 0 Posted July 9, 2006 Share Posted July 9, 2006 He should have went to college so he could sport a national championship ring that UNC took home while he was riding the bench in the NBA.Yea he would have played a lot on that team. I remember him lighting it up in the McDonalds game Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Bulls didn't hang onto J.R. Smith very long....http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/smith_trade_060721.htmlStocking up on picks... maybe for the future, maybe for future trades. Or both. Link to post Share on other sites
kers2 0 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Bulls didn't hang onto J.R. Smith very long....http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/smith_trade_060721.htmlStocking up on picks... maybe for the future, maybe for future trades. Or both.That is one of the worst trades I have seen in a long time. They could/should have gotten a lot more for Smith, who I believe is going to be a star player in this league. Either that or they could have included him in a bigger package. He is going to tear it up for the Nuggets, who have lacked a good 2 guard for as long as I can remember.It does, however, free up some playing time on the Bulls roster like we said they needed to do... but they really just gave away a player with one of the highest ceilings on that roster. Link to post Share on other sites
princeof56k 0 Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 The trade with JR Smith is hard to figure out. The Bulls got Eisley (who's close to done) and two 2nd round draft choices. And I agree with kers2, it seems like the Bulls could have gotten more here. My hunch is that the trade was motivated more on Smiths trouble in getting along with Byron Scott last year than his basketball ability. Smith is still a project and a gamble the Bulls likely did not want to take when compared to how he might react to potentially reduced minutes next year. Scott Skiles doesnt want a head case in the locker room next year (especially with the high expectations of that team).That said, I dont think Smiths personality is that bad (and normal for a kid his age) and the Nuggets got the better end of the deal. Smith had a bad sophmore slump, but he did manage to improve his 3-point and free throw shooting. So there were some positives. And he's only in his 3rd year. Plus, all the moving around lately is likely to straighten his head out and he'll realize he's got to work to survive in this league. I would say the next 2 seasons will let the Nuggets know exactly what type of player Smith will be (which at a minimum should be a solid bench player). High upside and low downside. Thats not a bad gamble cosidering everything they gave up was likely not to produce at all. Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 The secret to the Bulls sucess more than anything is team chemistry.If they just felt he wouldn't fit in, or that having another guard might just cause rotation problems, I think that could be a big reason they moved him. Link to post Share on other sites
Canary3 1 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 That is one of the worst trades I have seen in a long time. They could/should have gotten a lot more for Smith, who I believe is going to be a star player in this league. Either that or they could have included him in a bigger package. He is going to tear it up for the Nuggets, who have lacked a good 2 guard for as long as I can remember.It does, however, free up some playing time on the Bulls roster like we said they needed to do... but they really just gave away a player with one of the highest ceilings on that roster.since when is jr smith a good 2 guard? 9 point a game average in two years. nothing special and i do realize that he came out of high school and is still young Link to post Share on other sites
flyingdonkey 0 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 NO!!!!!! The 2006-2007 NBA CHAMPS WILL BE........................... NO!!!!!! The 2006-2007 NBA CHAMPS WILL BE...........................And this girl is HOTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
oldirtyharry 0 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Id bet on the Suns for the title. Suprise team will be, as Hollinger has already predicted, The Boston Celtics. Atlantic Champs (Im aware that's not saying much.) Link to post Share on other sites
kers2 0 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 since when is jr smith a good 2 guard? 9 point a game average in two years. nothing special and i do realize that he came out of high school and is still youngWow. Well I think I explained myself pretty well 3 months ago when this was originally posted, but I'll go for it again.JR Smith is not a superstar yet, nor even a "great" 2 guard. But for his potential, I would still call him a "good" 2 guard, yes. The Bulls gave him up for absolutely nothing, and that was what I was discussing. I suggested it was probably because the Bulls rotation is already pretty crowded, but they could have gotten more for someone with so much "potential" (especially in this day and age of the NBA, when teams seem to draft/trade on potential over production).Now, as far as your "9 point a game average in two years" point, that is also for only 21 minutes pg for his career. He should be getting 30-35 mpg in Denver now that he will be starting, so if you estimate that, he *could* be scoring around 15 ppg for the Nuggs, and giving them the outside threat they've lacked for 3 years now.Nothing is certain obviously, but I'd say that is pretty good. And for the Nuggets to get a starting 2 guard for that little in a trade... also pretty good. Link to post Share on other sites
WallstreetMSU 0 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Pistons are going to win. Link to post Share on other sites
Azreous 0 Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 Id bet on the Suns for the title. Suprise team will be, as Hollinger has already predicted, The Boston Celtics. Atlantic Champs (Im aware that's not saying much.)They can win this title even without a healthy Stoudemire. The depth is much better. You're looking at Marcus Banks and Leandro Barbosa, James Jones and Stoudemire, and Pat Burke/Piatkowski off the bench, which is severely improved over the past two seasons. Even if Stoudemire can only give 20 minutes of 80% Amare per game, that's a pretty serious scoring threat coming off the pine.They're better defensively, offensively...now it's just a matter of if they're better than the Mavs, Spurs, etc. I'd give them an edge over the Spurs until we see how their health holds up over an 82-game season, and a push with the Mavs right now. They ended our season last year, and the burden of proof is on us to show we're the better team now. Link to post Share on other sites
princeof56k 0 Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 Predicting who will come out of the West is almost impossible. The 3 teams at the top are too close to call. Therefore seeding becomes so important when the playoffs arrive. One of them will have an easier route than the other 2, and the rest of the teams in the West bracket will be tough.The West is so competive that if I had to pick a team right now to win the Finals I would have to pick the Heat. That's only because the have the best chance to get to the finals in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 0 Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 The West is so competive that if I had to pick a team right now to win the Finals I would have to pick the Heat. That's only because the have the best chance to get to the finals in the first place.I agree guessing how the West will work out is going to be extremly hard, but even though they are the defending champs and I love Dwade, I'm not sure how they do with Shaq another year older. He wasn't exactly impressive in the finals last year. Link to post Share on other sites
princeof56k 0 Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 Trust me in no way do I think the Heat are the best team. I'm picking them because the East stinks. Home court advantage isnt even that important for them (This is the direct opposite of the West where teams are going to be busting their *** from game 1). I see them coasting through the regular season beating up on the bottom feeders just like they did last year. Riley is bringing back the same team and should have them ready come playoff time. While the Heat dont look spectacular this year, they didnt look spectacular LAST year either. They just got it together when in counted. In the East they have that luxury.About ShaqThe rumor is Shaq isnt in shape, but so what. He wasnt in shape last year either. He only played 30 minutes a game last year and I look for him to play less this year (I'd say 28-27 mpg). And he doesnt need to be dominant on this team. His presence and vetern smarts were enough last year (where he's getting other people shots rather than for himself), and it should be the same this year. And the center position is so weak right now its unreal. He's not nearly taking the pounding he did in the past. The only thing the Heat are worried about is having him healthy for the playoffs and they will do everything they can to make it happen. Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 0 Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 I never buy into the whole coast through the regular season and then being able to turn it up for the playoffs. Very few teams can pull that off well, most of them end up choking in the playoffs. Link to post Share on other sites
Azreous 0 Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 I never buy into the whole coast through the regular season and then being able to turn it up for the playoffs. Very few teams can pull that off well, most of them end up choking in the playoffs.Exactly. See: last year, Detroit Pistons. Link to post Share on other sites
princeof56k 0 Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 I never buy into the whole coast through the regular season and then being able to turn it up for the playoffs. Very few teams can pull that off well, most of them end up choking in the playoffs.I should clarify my "coast" comment. They won't slack off, but they won't exactly bust their *** all season either trying to get the number 1 seed in the East. Last year they basically followed that approach with their main intention being to have everyone healthy. Their record was 52-30 last year, but their record against good teams was very poor (I think thats correct, but I'm not sure). I think they for the most part they beat up in the weaker teams. I dont think they fully exerted themselves during the regular season (at least not as much as last season's 4 other top teams).So by "coast" I mean they will basically do what they did last year. Link to post Share on other sites
NYC 0 Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Orlando Magic. Milicic, DHo, Nelson and Hill, doesn't get any better then that! Link to post Share on other sites
gilbertology 0 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Lez Bullez! Link to post Share on other sites
Flack_attack 0 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Orlando Magic. Milicic, DHo, Nelson and Hill, doesn't get any better then that! Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 0 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Orlando Magic. Milicic, DHo, Nelson and Hill, doesn't get any better then that!Put down the crack pipe. Link to post Share on other sites
princeof56k 0 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Orlando Magic. Milicic, DHo, Nelson and Hill, doesn't get any better then that!Are they actually calling Howard "DHo" down in Olando? Please tell me you made that up. Link to post Share on other sites
oldirtyharry 0 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Hot damn Rajon Rando is NASTY. Link to post Share on other sites
kers2 0 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Bump for actually being right about something lol. Plus, lots of good predictions in this thread, including one on Orlando http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3835 Bulls didn't hang onto J.R. Smith very long....http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/smith_trade_060721.htmlStocking up on picks... maybe for the future, maybe for future trades. Or both.That is one of the worst trades I have seen in a long time. They could/should have gotten a lot more for Smith, who I believe is going to be a star player in this league. Either that or they could have included him in a bigger package. He is going to tear it up for the Nuggets, who have lacked a good 2 guard for as long as I can remember.It does, however, free up some playing time on the Bulls roster like we said they needed to do... but they really just gave away a player with one of the highest ceilings on that roster.since when is jr smith a good 2 guard? 9 point a game average in two years. nothing special and i do realize that he came out of high school and is still youngWow. Well I think I explained myself pretty well 3 months ago when this was originally posted, but I'll go for it again.JR Smith is not a superstar yet, nor even a "great" 2 guard. But for his potential, I would still call him a "good" 2 guard, yes. The Bulls gave him up for absolutely nothing, and that was what I was discussing. I suggested it was probably because the Bulls rotation is already pretty crowded, but they could have gotten more for someone with so much "potential" (especially in this day and age of the NBA, when teams seem to draft/trade on potential over production).Now, as far as your "9 point a game average in two years" point, that is also for only 21 minutes pg for his career. He should be getting 30-35 mpg in Denver now that he will be starting, so if you estimate that, he *could* be scoring around 15 ppg for the Nuggs, and giving them the outside threat they've lacked for 3 years now.Nothing is certain obviously, but I'd say that is pretty good. And for the Nuggets to get a starting 2 guard for that little in a trade... also pretty good. Link to post Share on other sites
princeof56k 0 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Bump for actually being right about something lol. Plus, lots of good predictions in this thread, including one on Orlando Big props to the guy who mentioned the Magic. I didnt see that coming. Of course no one thought the East would this bad. (And even I thought it would be horrible to begin with). But the Magics' play has been superb and one of the lone bright spots in the East. Link to post Share on other sites
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