Ace Magnets

[econ_tim 0]

Dealt to econ_tim [Ks Kd]UTG folds, MP raises, econ_tim 3-bets, Button cold calls, blinds fold, MP calls.*** FLOP *** [Jc Qd As]MP bets, econ_tim calls, Button folds.*** TURN *** [Jc Qd As] [5d]MP bets, econ_tim calls.*** RIVER *** [Jc Qd As 5d] [6c]MP bets, econ_tim calls.This is from a 5/10 game. Villain seems less aggro preflop but more aggro postflop than typical six-maxer, but I don't have enough hands for a good read. The flop and turn seem like clear calls, but what about the river?

[Frinkenstein 0]

Dealt to econ_tim [Ks Kd]UTG folds, MP raises, econ_tim 3-bets, Button cold calls, blinds fold, MP calls.*** FLOP *** [Jc Qd As]MP bets, econ_tim calls, Button folds.*** TURN *** [Jc Qd As] [5d]MP bets, econ_tim calls.*** RIVER *** [Jc Qd As 5d] [6c]MP bets, econ_tim calls.This is from a 5/10 game. Villain seems less aggro preflop but more aggro postflop than typical six-maxer, but I don't have enough hands for a good read. The flop and turn seem like clear calls, but what about the river?

Seems like if you're going to call the flop and the turn, you might as well call the river.

[Zach6668 513]

Seems like if you're going to call the flop and the turn, you might as well call the river.

If you call the turn then you have to call the river.

[Verdimme 0]

I think you can safely fold this river. You can't fold the turn, because of your K and T outs..although they might be dirty.You mention that villain is not so aggro preflop, and since he raised, we can probably give him a preflop range that looks like this:AA-TT, AK/AQ/AJ/KQ..maybe AT. You only beat TT and KQ. Would villain donk you with TT or KQ, and continue to 'bluff' all the way? I think its unlikely.

[screech 0]

Only thing that you can pausibly beat here is TT. I think you can find a fold here against most players.If button stayed in on the flop, I assume you were folding the turn?

[greatwhite 0]

What about raising the flop? You 3-bet preflop and may earn you a free card on the turn. Villian would probablly slowdown without AK or 2 pair. You might even get a weak ace to fold.

[FullMontyM1 0]

What about raising the flop? You 3-bet preflop and may earn you a free card on the turn. Villian would probablly slowdown without AK or 2 pair. You might even get a weak ace to fold.

There's no such thing as a weak ace, only weak players.swUh, yeah you could fold on the turn bet, or call down. Depends on the player.Monty

[screech 0]

What about raising the flop? You 3-bet preflop and may earn you a free card on the turn. Villian would probablly slowdown without AK or 2 pair. You might even get a weak ace to fold.

It's much more likely that we fold a small pp or get 3-bet by a better hand.

[Zach6668 513]

Why do people always think they can get a small ace to fold?Nobody folds top pair....

[greatwhite 0]

I thought about this hand after I left the computer. It's a tricky hand, so I just threw a suggestion up in the air. I don't think I would really 3-bet the flop here unless I knew my opponent could have and would fold a weak ace. I would probablly just call down otherwise.

[Zach6668 513]

I thought about this hand after I left the computer. It's a tricky hand, so I just threw a suggestion up in the air. I don't think I would really 3-bet the flop here unless I knew my opponent could have and would fold a weak ace. I would probablly just call down otherwise.

That's true. While it is possible that a certain opponent will lay down a weak ace, most of the players can't do that. Even at 5/10. You'd need a pretty specific read, IMO to justify making a play like that.