SapphireTiger 0 Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 I'm teaching a friend how to play poker. She wants to be able to be good enough to beat her boyfriend...Now this is a situation that i always find myself in. How do you effectively teach a player who has never played a hand of poker in her life how to play? There are so many concepts and things to explain that I dont 'really know how to go about it.So far i've taught her the following in this order:Hand Ranking - an obvious first lessonBetting Structure/Game setup - gotta know the basicsCommon terminology - so she knows what i'm sayingnow from here i think you can go in a ton of different areasPersonally i went into positionI explained early, middle, and late position, in the blinds, because i think that's one of the most important things, plus the fact that your starting hand requirments depend on it.Then i went into starting hands pre-flop in each of the positions.So that's where i'm at now.anything else in pre-flop strategy i should mention?Where should i go to next for post-flop strategy?Basically, give me a list of how you would teach someone who doesn't know anything about poker to becoming a fairly decent player in NLHE.thanks guys! Link to post Share on other sites
custom36 4 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Have you taught her what to do if he raises?(I mean that in the cleanest way possible) Link to post Share on other sites
DB10-2 0 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 forget it. she's gotta play hands to learn, you can only tell her so much. set her up with some play money and turn her loose online while you sit and coach. once she knows about hand rankings, starting hands, and position she can at least get started. then move on to concepts like pot odds, trapping, etc.this is nostalgic. i remember way back when i first learned poker. i would play so stupidly that i would lose all of my daily alotted fake money almost every day for a couple of weeks. back then i was more mortified to lose a fake grand than i am today about real money.i think online fake money i's a good way to learn once you weed out the all in specialists. the players aren't necessarily all going to be good, but the concepts will still hold up. Link to post Share on other sites
HtotheNootch 0 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Buy Getting Started in Holdem. If she's paying you for lessons, then parrot it to her. If you're not getting paid, just hand her the book. Link to post Share on other sites
SapphireTiger 0 Posted July 20, 2005 Author Share Posted July 20, 2005 this isn't to say that while i teach her she's not going to touch any cards. i understand that she has to play te hands to learn, but there are definitely some things that will speed up the learning process.I don't want to just hand her a book, she's my friend and i told her i woudl teach her. It's not like i mind either, i'm relearning the fundamentals to secure them in my mind. you retain 90% when you teach right? Link to post Share on other sites
DB10-2 0 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 this isn't to say that while i teach her she's not going to touch any cards. i understand that she has to play te hands to learn, but there are definitely some things that will speed up the learning process.I don't want to just hand her a book, she's my friend and i told her i woudl teach her. It's not like i mind either, i'm relearning the fundamentals to secure them in my mind. you retain 90% when you teach right?i used to teach the LSAT for kaplan but i don't remember 9% let alone 90% of that garbage.in any event, you seem to have a pretty good plan laid out. i think talking her through online hands can be a very good instructional tool. i actually helped my gf piece together some semblance of a game that way. Link to post Share on other sites
StuNami 0 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 this isn't to say that while i teach her she's not going to touch any cards. i understand that she has to play te hands to learn, but there are definitely some things that will speed up the learning process.I don't want to just hand her a book, she's my friend and i told her i woudl teach her. It's not like i mind either, i'm relearning the fundamentals to secure them in my mind. you retain 90% when you teach right?She must be a babe. What a great friend!!! Does he know he is "sharing" her with you??I agree with the posters who say to set her up online. You can weed out the really dumb fish pretty easily by observing the table for about 20 minutes (during your lecture portion) and once the table looks pretty solid - send her in to take some fake money from the smarter fish.My $0.02 Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcCatcher 0 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 this isn't to say that while i teach her she's not going to touch any cards. i understand that she has to play te hands to learn, but there are definitely some things that will speed up the learning process.I don't want to just hand her a book, she's my friend and i told her i woudl teach her. It's not like i mind either, i'm relearning the fundamentals to secure them in my mind. you retain 90% when you teach right?i used to teach the LSAT for kaplan but i don't remember 9% let alone 90% of that garbage.in any event, you seem to have a pretty good plan laid out. i think talking her through online hands can be a very good instructional tool. i actually helped my gf piece together some semblance of a game that way.Ha you taught Kaplan? I hated that course. I did better before I took it. ANyway, why cant her boyfriend teach her? Does she want to one day suprise him by being better or beating him HU? That will be a relationship killer and shatter his ego. Oh, I see now. GL Link to post Share on other sites
Stylin_Fish 0 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Maybe you can teach her to look at how the table views her. Eventhough she is new to poker, if she knows they view her as a newcomer she might be able to extract some chips(if you teach her how to) just by her own table image. Link to post Share on other sites
shortypoke 0 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 I've dealt with this issue a lot myself. Here's the most important thing to keep in mind: Keep it simple!She's a spankin' new beginner. She won't retain pot odds, table image, check-raising, long-shot draws, flop textures, or anything of the like. Explain what beats what. Play a bunch of hands with her. If she's smart, she'll pick stuff up and slowly be more capable of learning more lessons. If she's not smart, she won't learn on her own, and she won't learn by you teaching her... she'll just have to hope she's at least good looking to make up for it. Link to post Share on other sites
Oziumrules 0 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Start with the grip, then posture and proper body movements (hip turn, leg drive). Then go to the putting green and chip and putt (for feel technique).Oh you mean poker? Sorry, for some reason, I cant read lately... Link to post Share on other sites
hexag1 0 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 the first thing i would tell her is that skill is what pays in poker not luck.you should also be sure that she understands that poker is all about what you do with your chips, and that the cards are to poker what the chessboard is to chess.be sure to explain the difference between calling and raising, and how you must have a much stronger hand to call with than to raise with. Link to post Share on other sites
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