93transam 0 Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 I just signed up there and so far the tables seem somewhat loose, but I guess that comes with being connected to a casino. For anyone that plays there, what are the pros/cons? Link to post Share on other sites
HurricaneKyle 0 Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 I play there every day. Awful players, be prepared for weeks from poker hell. Link to post Share on other sites
custom36 4 Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 I play there every day. Awful players, be prepared for weeks from poker hell.:doh: Link to post Share on other sites
Sushiman 0 Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Pros: people play like it's tournament poker. You will CONSTATLY see people going all in with absolute crap on a short stack. It's loose and for the most part people are very bad. There's not a lot of players on the site so you know who to avoid pretty quickly.Also Bodog has one of the best customer service departments of any site. They are awesome.Cons: Poor table selection. There's no shorthanded games and if you like limit you are way out of luck. I've been sucked out more on this site in a week than I have in 2 month of Partypoker. Tinfoil hat I know, but I'm just saying. Link to post Share on other sites
missIdaho 1 Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 I'm glad I am not the only one that has notice the unusual number of suck outs. I just played a SnG where I lost with two pair twice in a row to a set on the river. It can get frustrating. But on the plus side I am more liable to go for a flush or straight draw on Bodog than any where else. Link to post Share on other sites
93transam 0 Posted July 1, 2005 Author Share Posted July 1, 2005 I'm glad I am not the only one that has notice the unusual number of suck outs. Â I just played a SnG where I lost with two pair twice in a row to a set on the river. Â It can get frustrating. Â But on the plus side I am more liable to go for a flush or straight draw on Bodog than any where else.i have noticed that ive made more flush draws on this site so far, even in this short amount of time Link to post Share on other sites
Waffles2003 1 Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 dont get me started with bodog, its the bad beat land.... Link to post Share on other sites
custom36 4 Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 more suckouts = worse playersSeriously, why can't you people get that through your heads? I made a few hundered in my short time at Bodog. It's unbelievably soft, the software is awesome, customer service is incredible, and they have huge tournament overlays. If there were more people, I would likely play there more often. Link to post Share on other sites
Sushiman 0 Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 more suckouts = worse playersSeriously, why can't you people get that through your heads? Â I made a few hundered in my short time at Bodog. Â It's unbelievably soft, the software is awesome, customer service is incredible, and they have huge tournament overlays. Â If there were more people, I would likely play there more often.Yea, but getting kicked in the face by cards again and again gets real old. I've noticed the tremendous amount of bad players, but my experience has been so bad that I'm cashing out as soon as I clear my bonus. I'm making money but nowhere the amount I was making in the same amount of time at Party. Maybe it's varience, maybe I just suck at ring games, but Bodog has been very -EV for me. Link to post Share on other sites
rexmundi 0 Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 yeah.. i agree with the pros that people gave.. huge tournament overlays.. weak players in the cash games, great customer service.. the software is great.. looks nice and is fast.. cons.. well.. i dont mind the suckouts when they pay me off eventually.. for tournaments, because of the huge overlays, more and more online pros are playing in the big weekend tournys.. but thats not such a big deal i guess.... ahh.only real con i can think of.. pokertracker doesnt work for that site yet.. Link to post Share on other sites
LongOdds 0 Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 BoDog has been good to me, but it is a very high variance site.Just today I had this occur to me in a $50 NL table:Me with KK, opponent with QJcI bet 4 BB preflop, he calls.Flop is three rags, no clubs. He checks, I bet 75% of pot, he calls.Turn is a J. He checks, I bet 80% of pot, he calls.River is a J. He checks, I bet 60% of pot, he flat calls.Goodbye mucho money. Its tough to put up with that stuff, but in the long run, it is very good on my roll.As a warning, I have noticed the NL tables getting tighter in the last few days. There is still usually 3 or 4 juicy tables, but the other 3 or 4 now seem to be too tight for comfort (I am seeing $4-5 pots and 28-32% flop percentages at $50 NL.....no thanks). Anyone else notice the trend? Link to post Share on other sites
Sushiman 0 Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 BoDog has been good to me, but it is a very high variance site.Just today I had this occur to me in a $50 NL table:Me with KK, opponent with QJcI bet 4 BB preflop, he calls.Flop is three rags, no clubs. Â He checks, I bet 75% of pot, he calls.Turn is a J. Â He checks, I bet 80% of pot, he calls.River is a J. Â He checks, I bet 60% of pot, he flat calls.Goodbye mucho money. Â Its tough to put up with that stuff, but in the long run, it is very good on my roll.As a warning, I have noticed the NL tables getting tighter in the last few days. Â There is still usually 3 or 4 juicy tables, but the other 3 or 4 now seem to be too tight for comfort (I am seeing $4-5 pots and 28-32% flop percentages at $50 NL.....no thanks). Â Anyone else notice the trend?I have noticed that. No idea what the deal is but it was pretty much like that when I got there. I'm on right now and the average is mid 40-50%. But that's probably just because it's night time. Link to post Share on other sites
custom36 4 Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 All of you complaining about bad beats should STFU and stop playing poker. You clearly don't understand the goldmine you're sitting on. Link to post Share on other sites
LongOdds 0 Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 I understand it. Thats why I play there. I was just making the point that you have to expect a higher variance then normal. Now you STFU and crawl back into whatever bitter shell you came out of. Link to post Share on other sites
custom36 4 Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 I understand it. Â Thats why I play there. Â I was just making the point that you have to expect a higher variance then normal. Â Now you STFU and crawl back into whatever bitter shell you came out of.Then I obviously wasn't talking to you. Go back to sucking on that exhaust pipe. Link to post Share on other sites
HurricaneKyle 0 Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 more suckouts = worse players  Seriously, why can't you people get that through your heads? I made a few hundered in my short time at Bodog. It's unbelievably soft, the software is awesome, customer service is incredible, and they have huge tournament overlays. If there were more people, I would likely play there more often.Its easy to say when you are having a good week. Yesterday I was 1 for 8 with AA, KK, and QQ and not one time did I slowplay. Each time I was beaten by unpaired rags that should never have been in the hand. When things are going great, Bodog is a paradise filled with juicy profit. When things are going bad you just want to jump off a building because often times there is no end in sight, like these past two weeks for me. The sitngos are filled with awful players. However the blind structure IS AWFUL. When it gets down to three or four players the blinds become about a third to half your stack and it becomes a luck driven move in fest. I will say the times I won the sitngos, I honestly didn't deserve it, and the times I lost were some of the lowest points in my poker career.Let me give you an example of the beats you will encounter if you come to bodog. I had JJ, raise all in(the blinds were roughly half my stack, but the two chip leaders had about a fifth of their money in on the BB.) Anyway, a guy with KT called. Flop was J3T. Then a 9 on the turn and a Q on the river. Nearly every sitngo will end like that for the unfortunate player who has a clue about NLHE. It doesn't happen to just me. There is no strategy involved in crunch time because, there is no point to outplaying a guy after the flop when a significant portion of your stack is already invested before the flop. Very unfulfilling and frustrating, whereas on the free sitngos at Poker Stars there were many great lessons learned when I lost a tournament. I really improved my game and felt better each time when I lost. I would play at PS, except they don't take my debit card or have digital checks which bodog has. Link to post Share on other sites
custom36 4 Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 I am astounded. I'm almost speechless. That was, without a doubt, the most "I hate money" post of the year.And, just so you know, it's easy to say when I'm having a bad week. I've had a bad week this past week - and I still knew that all those bad beats would pay me off sooner or later. Your story wasn't that bad of a beat. You know what's a bad beat? Going all in with AA on a 6-6-J-2 board, and having the river bring your opponent a 3rd king. That's a bad beat. It happens all the time. Get over it - it's going to happen again. Link to post Share on other sites
HurricaneKyle 0 Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Custom-So losing as a 98% favorite after the flop isn't a bad beat? Your story is bad as well, but can you really fault a guy for liking his Kings with that flop. I'm sorry if I seem bitter, just keep in mind that I've had a really bad week and a half. Link to post Share on other sites
custom36 4 Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 just keep in mind that I've had a really bad week and a half.And keep in mind that you're not the only one. It would be weird if you DIDN'T have a really bad week. Link to post Share on other sites
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