team work at the wpt championship

[HangukMiguk 8]

Things like "Sorry I had to do that there." (this was when Tuan lee went in with A8s when Habib had 7's) Who says that to someone you are trying to beat??

A friend perhaps? When all the money's in, there's not much to do then. You can then chat it up with your friend after that, even if you are trying to bust him.This almost even likens in a comparison to the TOC last where Annie Duke went through the emotional roller coaster after sucking out on her brother and busting him. In the end, relationships will play out, but when you're in the game, that doesn't matter.

[monoatomic 0]

Brother and sister, especially Annie and Howard I think is alittle different then just friends. I see your point though.

[PokerDealer2005 0]

He didnt stake Tuan, he bought 50% of him.....big difference.

[HangukMiguk 8]

Brother and sister, especially Annie and Howard I think is alittle different then just friends.

I understand what you're saying. Friends can act a little more in the grey area than family.In defense of them though, I do find myself talking to my buddies in tournaments when all the money's out there in a similar sense that Hasan and Tuan did. I mean, we're talking about higher stakes here, and that's where the whole thing about controlling interest comes deeper into play than it would with a few buddies playing a $20 freezeout online or at a home game. So I do see where you are getting at too, but guess I don't see it in the way a lot of the hands shown played out.

[Chrisj1616 0]

with what tuan had left he definitly would have called... the only reaosn he didnt was because the next card didnt help him and he knew has was behind after habib's move...The way the table was playing... especially tuan, there is no way he lays down to the allin there...

Youre wrong...In Case you didnt notice Tuan was playing pretty much solid no mistake poker up to that point...There is No Way Tuan would have called an all in reraise on that flop

[LongOdds 0]

Habib owned a significant % of Tuans action. I had previously heard 25%, but in this thread someone claims 50%. Either way, it is openly known that Habib owned some of Tuans action. The real question is whether or not they let the arrangement effect their play (dumping chips, soft play, collusion, etc.). There is no evidence of colusion, there is only one poorly played hand by Habib that can be explained in many ways, one of which happens to be collusion.Paul Phillips had a very interesting blog analyzing this situation. He got into the actual math of Habib's decision (not as obvious as it appears). I suggest everyone check it out before speculating any further.

[DaBruins 0]

Actually a lot of the comments and actions of Tuan are more telling of acting together then hands.Things like "Sorry I had to do that there." (this was when Tuan lee went in with A8s when Habib had 7's) Who says that to someone you are trying to beat??The reaction when Maxfield got the K on the river to stay alive. Did you see Tuan? Who acts like that when one of your opponents stays alive in the tourney.If they weren't somewhat playing off each other I'd be VERY surprised.

maybe i just dont remember the exact situation, but didnt Maxfield suckout on Habib to stick around in the tournament......well i know if i was on the table i would be mad that Maxfield stuck around because the difference between 2nd and 3rd is 800,000 dollars.As for the "i had to do that there", i think Tuan was just acknowledging the fact that A8 is not a good hand to have when all your money is in the pot because its hard to be a significant favorite against another hand. And since Tuan hit his cards, he was just saying sorry.

[Wolverine79' 0]

Forget collusion, the worst part about last night was that douche antonio making Shana dissappear...I thought I didn't like him before.

[Guest XXEddie]

habib not calling tuan's allin with KJs clearly won the tournament for tuan... tuan would have went b roke most likely...

fixed your post