limping utg

[mark33f 0]

I strictly play live cash games and I just wanted some advice on limping UTG. Typically, the table is short handed from 5-8 people. When I am first to act, I usually limp with 8 9,9 10, 10 J, Q J suited (if it is shorter like 3-5 people table I will raise with Q J). I think this is a whole in my game. I like taking flops with suited connectors and I will limp a lot with them, especially from early position. Is limping UTG good or bad? Any advice on my practices or what hands to limp UTG (if I should be doing it period)? Any general advice or what you guys do on limping would be greatly appreciated...

[shortfuze 0]

Well I think we need a little more info. Is this limit (i assume it is) or no limit? But more specifically, is this a really passive table? i probably wouldn't limp with most of those hands unless I was sure there would be lots of calls and no raises. If we could assume that this is something like 3-6 r 4-8 at a casino you could probably get away with it since there are usually lots of callers (any two cards baabbby!!!) and not many raises, but otherwise you might want to tighten up your starting requirements a bit, especially if its an aggressive table with lots of raises. you dont want to be calling 1 or 2 extra bets because you limped UTG with most of those hands. Just my opinion though.-shortfuzesidenote-you can play stuff like q-j utg in those really shorthanded tables like 3-5 players but with 7-8 you're probably way behind.

[econ_tim 0]

You probably know this, but just to review: the reasons why you need a strong holding to limp from UTG are a) you could be raised and reraised by later players and B) you don't know if the pot will be large, so your hand should be playable for small pot odds.As the previous poster said, we need more information on the players in you game to give a better answer. In limit, I don't limp with many hands UTG. Maybe small pairs and some suited aces (I expand this depending on how loose the table is).

[mark33f 0]

Yes, I play limit, $30-$60 this past weekend. I would say 90% of the time I play, the table is extremely passive. People just want to see tons of flops. But what if say I call the BB at a five or six handed table with 9 10 suited, and the SB raises...should I just let these hands go if raised?

[creepy20 0]

i think the above poster made good points..it might depend a lot on your table. I don't like to limp UTG that much though. I usually like to come in for a raise there with a solid hand...can't go wrong playing solid up front and loose in the back. Ofcourse when the table is 3-5 players, the blinds will eat you up so you have to play. With a lot of calling stations, then yes I would call UTG with these hands and might even bring it in for a raise. Again..depends on the type of table. Are they're a lot of people calling EP raises cold from behind?....or do they respect the EP raise and only call with solid hands? are you folding these types of hand to a raise from someone on the button or a reraise?

[Rocketwadster 0]

IMO - limping UTG is terrible with suited connectors, UNLESS you know that you are not going to be raised pre-flop at least 85% of the time (I play in a fairly regular game that routinely has at least 5 players seeing a flop). I personally hardly ever limp in UTG, unless I have aces, kings, or ace king (if I know it will be raised behind me so I can re-raise). :wink:

[mark33f 0]

On most occasions when I play, the game will have 6 people, with a lot of people calling to see flops. Typically, if someone reraises they hold Aces, Kings, Queens, Jacks or AK. People just don't raise all that much. If the game is passive with lots of callers is limping more profitable? So basically...limp with a passive table...And don't with an agressive one?

[shortfuze 0]

On most occasions when I play, the game will have 6 people, with a lot of people calling to see flops.   Typically, if someone reraises they hold Aces, Kings, Queens, Jacks or AK.  People just don't raise all that much.  If the game is passive with lots of callers is limping more profitable?  So basically...limp with a passive table...And don't with an agressive one?

not exactly. i still probably wouldn't limp with 7-8, 8-9, 9-10 utg in 6 handed. but if the table is that passive and easy to read, maybe you should start rasing more and limping less.-shortfuze

[CobaltBlue 662]

mark, middle suited connectors love multiway, unraised pots. So yes, you want a passive, loose table.

[TheIceman05 0]

On most occasions when I play, the game will have 6 people, with a lot of people calling to see flops. Typically, if someone reraises they hold Aces, Kings, Queens, Jacks or AK. People just don't raise all that much. If the game is passive with lots of callers is limping more profitable?

Oh my god... where do you find 30/60 games like this? Can I play? Will you stake me? Standard deal?Ice

[mark33f 0]

That game is a "private game" and coworkers only Best game I EVER found!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is usaully a $10-$20 dealer's choice, but in "honor" of the WSOP for June we played $30-$60 straight LHE.So stay away!! But it only takes place once a month

[Smasharoo 0]

I think this is a whole in my game.I think you are correct sir.Don't limp with junk UTG.

[Petoria 0]

On most occasions when I play, the game will have 6 people, with a lot of people calling to see flops. Typically, if someone reraises they hold Aces, Kings, Queens, Jacks or AK. People just don't raise all that much. If the game is passive with lots of callers is limping more profitable?

Oh my god... where do you find 30/60 games like this? Can I play? Will you stake me? Standard deal?Ice

You could just call me worm, and i could play at a different table str8 up. I'm your friend that's all they would have to know. Please i need a good bankroll booster.

[Frills 0]

when deciding wether to limp from EP, figure out what you would do assuming its raised/reraised behind ya.If you can't cap or call 2 cold with it, its crap and nees to be dumped.

[Briguy 0]

Yes, I play limit, $30-$60 this past weekend. I would say 90% of the time I play, the table is extremely passive. People just want to see tons of flops. But what if say I call the BB at a five or six handed table with 9 10 suited, and the SB raises...should I just let these hands go if raised?

Edit: Whoops, misread, sorry.Call, if a bunch of people are already in the pot. There's no reason not to see a 10 SB preflop pot with a good multiway hand like 10-9 suited, when it will only cost you one more SB to do so. If there are no callers (which seems unlikely at this table), then fold. A 4 SB pot isn't worth it, IMO.