How America Will Collapse (by 2025)

[akoff 0]

Well, while you're figuring it out and BG is peddling snake (skin) oil how about..developing a game plan which includes,1. Teaching kids "how" to learn.2. Teaching kids why it's "important" to learn.3. Developing a cheap national basic curriculum, (ridding schools of expensive books), in science, math, history and language skills (reading, writing, etc.)4. Use computer technology to invent new improved learning techniques5. Invest in the actual infrastructure of the schools.off the top of my head...

some good ideas...was busy looking at porn while you were typing...

[Balloon guy 158]

Well, while you're figuring it out and BG is peddling snake (skin) oil how about..developing a game plan which includes,1. Teaching kids "how" to learn.2. Teaching kids why it's "important" to learn.3. Developing a cheap national basic curriculum, (ridding schools of expensive books), in science, math, history and language skills (reading, writing, etc.)4. Use computer technology to invent new improved learning techniques5. Invest in the actual infrastructure of the schools.off the top of my head...

How about we just outlaw teachers unions, close the Dept of Edu and take all the money and give it to the states?

[Balloon guy 158]

Also, for only $10 million, I will raise the test scores on our kids to make us competitive with the world's test scores.I will do this by pocketing the money and then suggesting we no longer count the kids who drop out of school in our formulas like most of the other nations we are supposedly behind do...

[dapokerbum 0]

I'd actually be okay with changing however many laws it'd take to make welfare conditional on drug testing. the idea's been floated here before by SB. there are lots of people who hate it but I've never seen the reasoning behind it.

I love this idea! How could anyone argue against it?

[El Guapo 8]

I love this idea! How could anyone argue against it?

Democrats and Libertarians.

[strategy 4]

Democrats and Libertarians.

I think libertarians would like how it'd reduce the number of welfare checks issued each month. democrats, I don't know, they'd probably like the education part of what SB said above.seems like an all-around positive thing for society.

[El Guapo 8]

Democrats would think the drug testing is invasive and against their rights.Libertarians think drugs should be legal and what you put in your body is up to you.

[dapokerbum 0]

(1) Democrats would think the drug testing is invasive and against their rights. (2) Libertarians think drugs should be legal and what you put in your body is up to you.

1 - I didn't realize welfare was a right.2 - What you put into your body is up to you ... but you should also be prepared for the consequence. If Drug testing is mandated for certain industries (truck drivers, school bus drivers, pilots, etc) then why shouldn't someone on the goverment "payroll" be required to have the same thing.

[Balloon guy 158]

I'd settle for them to be ineligible to vote...And their names in a drawing for BUM FIGHTS The MUSICAL

[strategy 4]

like I said, we'd have to change a few rules to make it happen. seems unlikely to me.

[phlegm 6]

Maybe we should get more people who want to legalize pot in positions of authority.

[ShakeZuma 585]

1 - I didn't realize welfare was a right.

you ever talked to somebody who was on it?also, I don't really think there are any conservatives who want to totally abolish welfare (save for those who's political beliefs consist of "send that jigaboo back to kenya!" and the like, of course), it's just that there's so, so much abuse of the system that there needs to be a major reconstruction of it to add more incentive to be a productive member of society as opposed to the major disincentives that it has now.

[SAM_Hard8 50]

I love this idea! How could anyone argue against it?

they just say it's racist.

[dapokerbum 0]

they just say it's racist.

I didn't know Drug Tests took racial bias ...

[hblask 1]

I mean spending money the right way, not funneling it into the No Child Left Behind Act. Burning NCLB, teacher improvement programs, updating inner-city schools would be some better options.

So you want spending cuts, then...?

[hblask 1]

Thisthe system is broken and so are many of the homes. parents need to take charge of the children. how do you expect a kid to do well when he has two crack head parents and a teacher that doesn't give a damn...not sure of the solution but it needs to start at home with values.

You should see "Waiting For Superman" -- there are schools that succeed in these situations, for a fraction of the cost of private schools.

[Roll the Bones 74]

You should see "Waiting For Superman" -- there are schools that succeed in these situations, for a fraction of the cost of private schools.

Really interesting.The campaign's four core initiatives are: •Setting academic standards that are on par with the world's best•Recruiting and rewarding great teachers•Creating and nurturing excellent schools, and•Increasing literacy rates

There's no question that our current educational system is failing our students. The statistics are staggering: among 30 developed countries, the U.S. is ranked 25th in math and 21st in science. It's estimated that by the year 2020, there will be 123 million high-paying, high-skill jobs in the United States, but only 50 million Americans will be qualified to fill these positions. Right now, what a student learns in one state might be totally different than a student will learn in another state. This puts countless students at a real competitive disadvantage. Furthermore, far too many of our students aren't given the tools or the knowledge they need to one day compete in the global economy. To address this critical problem, we must set higher education standards and help all kids meet them. The good news is these standards exist. The nation's governors and school leaders have developed the Common Core State Standards Initiative which would ensure all students from kindergarten through 12th grade are taught using a world-class curriculum. Write your governor to demand that these standards are implemented in your state. You can also help students reach these standards by tutoring, volunteering at your local school, or being a mentor. We need to better prepare today's generation of students starting NOW. Our future depends on it.

[custom36 4]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/11/nyregion..._r=1&src=meTea Party candidate wins election in a very wealthy county, runs county into the ground in 12 months flat.

[hblask 1]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/11/nyregion..._r=1&src=meTea Party candidate wins election in a very wealthy county, runs county into the ground in 12 months flat.

The article does not say he was a Tea Party candidate, just that he was one of the first upsets of the tea party era. Later it says he was a political insider with a long Republican history. His wiki page makes no reference to the tea parties. Is there information somewhere else that he ran as part of the tea party or is this just another lame attempt to blame tea parties for everything in the country?

[custom36 4]

The article does not say he was a Tea Party candidate, just that he was one of the first upsets of the tea party era. Later it says he was a political insider with a long Republican history. His wiki page makes no reference to the tea parties. Is there information somewhere else that he ran as part of the tea party or is this just another lame attempt to blame tea parties for everything in the country?

I guess I didn't read carefully enough. Just replace "tea party" with "republican" then.

[hblask 1]

I guess I didn't read carefully enough. Just replace "tea party" with "republican" then.

Yeah, the D's are tax and spend, the R's are borrow and spend. Some day America will come to it's senses, or we will look like this story.

[SAM_Hard8 50]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/11/nyregion..._r=1&src=meTea Party candidate wins election in a very wealthy county, runs county into the ground in 12 months flat.

nothing in that article backs up this statement.

[mtdesmoines 3]

If your population isn't smart and well educated you had better corner the market on some natural resources of some sort. Here in Canada our natural resources can help to make up for any relative decline in our innovation but we're only 33 million people.

But who's gonna buy all the shit?

^ the answer to this will be interesting. We exported materialism to Japan, and, since they have no natural resources to draw on, materialism bankrupted them in a couple decades.

I'd actually be okay with changing however many laws it'd take to make welfare conditional on drug testing. the idea's been floated here before by SB. there are lots of people who hate it but I've never seen the reasoning behind it.

Why should I have to drug test to work to pay taxes to pay welfare for people who don't get drug tested?

How about we just outlaw teachers unions, close the Dept of Edu and take all the money and give it to the states?

I like this idea. The article cited by the OP is stupid. It's easy to be Debbie Downer. The U.S. is a tremendous nation that has a lot of power ... and I was going to say "left in it," but that's too weak and passive. The 21st century *could* be another American Century, if we chose to play our cards correctly. That would mean protecting our borders, boosting manufacturing and production onshore, raising tariffs, bringing troops home and quitting the policy of military hegemony and creating a military whose only goal in the national defense. We need to fix education and worry MUCH more about math, science, history and the arts, than sex ed and bully education (the feminists have been the biggest bullies in the school for 40 years and look how far we fell).I guess the question is this: do we want to be socially, culturally, economically somewhere in the mix with China, Mexico and India? Or would we like to still be the United States?

[dapokerbum 0]

Why should I have to drug test to work to pay taxes to pay welfare for people who don't get drug tested?

So are you agreeing that we should drug test those on welfare? My reading comprehension is low in the morning!

[strategy 4]

So are you agreeing that we should drug test those on welfare? My reading comprehension is low in the morning!

he's complaining that employers do drug testing.keep voting republican, mdm. they care about your privacy and don't at all want to legislate your personal choices for you.