hartman72 0 Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 My local 1/2NL game, game was more action packed than usual, I had won lots of hands without showdown, I think I'm seen as pretty TAG/LAG mix.All Villainst have ~500-700Hero has ~6005 limpers, hero limps on the button with 10 8 cc, blinds check.Flop 9 Jh QChecked to hero, hero bets 20, 4 callers. (pot~90)Turn 3hChecked to hero, hero bets 75, 3 callers. (pot~300)River 6hChecked to hero, hero?? (had know idea what to do if i get check raised) Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Bet ~150/fold.Hard to think he made the flush with it going backdoor but it's possible with some sort of pair/straight draw that turned a flush draw. You'll get paid off by a lot. Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 4 way im torn between bet folding and just checking behind and winning. probably bet fold. Link to post Share on other sites
hartman72 0 Posted June 25, 2010 Author Share Posted June 25, 2010 On the turn after betting 75 in a limped pot and getting 3 callers, I was pretty certain one had to have a flush draw. Wrong? Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 I have a rule of thumb that says anytime a river flush hits with 4 players in, someone has it. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 This is a really easy bet/fold. People are going to have all sorts of 2 pair combos and if someone backed into a flush, you'll get raised and you can fold. I'd go with $175 and then get really upset if you get raised Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 why not go 125ish and save some dollars if we get raised, i mean i doubt anyone at 1-2 live will level that a raise here could take the pot down, and it may induce lighter call offs. idk just an idea. maybe even 100. i know that is smallish but you can use a little chip magic and put a lot of small chips out there to kinda sorta make the bet seem bigger then it really is. idk if this makes too much sense but live i have done this with decent success, idk if it was just too small a sample or if it is a legit kinda thing to do. Link to post Share on other sites
Stupidhead 2 Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 why not go 125ish and save some dollars if we get raised, i mean i doubt anyone at 1-2 live will level that a raise here could take the pot down, and it may induce lighter call offs. idk just an idea. maybe even 100. i know that is smallish but you can use a little chip magic and put a lot of small chips out there to kinda sorta make the bet seem bigger then it really is. idk if this makes too much sense but live i have done this with decent success, idk if it was just too small a sample or if it is a legit kinda thing to do.I'd be more concerned about getting max value than worrying about getting check raised. Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 I'd be more concerned about getting max value than worrying about getting check raised.idk i mean i just got to believe someone in the cluster***k of this multiway pot got there. And we have raised 2 streets already, why is it a stretch to think that villain knows we are going to fire a 3rd barrel Link to post Share on other sites
hartman72 0 Posted June 25, 2010 Author Share Posted June 25, 2010 idk i mean i just got to believe someone in the cluster***k of this multiway pot got there. And we have raised 2 streets already, why is it a stretch to think that villain knows we are going to fire a 3rd barrel That is what I was thinking about...K 10, KQhh, A 10hh, Q10hh are all within range I think, esp with 3 people calling on the turn. As mentioned, I had been pretty agressive so I had the thought of being check raised in the back of my mind. Link to post Share on other sites
shynepo3 0 Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 i really think you have to bet fold here, and expect to be good ALOT of the time....most players (in the 1/2 games ive played) would not check when they hit their flush on the end there....especially with you having the betting lead since the flop, i would assume they would expect you to check the river (for example, say first to act has the flush, he will expect it go check, check,check....and u check behind)...unless you're seen as some aggro who will bluff the river against 3 other players....did you check behind and win the pot and started cussing yourself out for not betting?the range you put them on in your post above, decreases drastically when it gets checked to you...unless these 1/2 players u play with are prone to check raising the river with the nuts (or when they think it's the nuts),.or i could just be wrong..my 2cents Link to post Share on other sites
shynepo3 0 Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 only hand i see someoen turning over when i gets checke to you on the river is k/10 Link to post Share on other sites
hartman72 0 Posted June 25, 2010 Author Share Posted June 25, 2010 i really think you have to bet fold here, and expect to be good ALOT of the time....most players (in the 1/2 games ive played) would not check when they hit their flush on the end there....especially with you having the betting lead since the flop, i would assume they would expect you to check the river (for example, say first to act has the flush, he will expect it go check, check,check....and u check behind)...unless you're seen as some aggro who will bluff the river against 3 other players....did you check behind and win the pot and started cussing yourself out for not betting?the range you put them on in your post above, decreases drastically when it gets checked to you...unless these 1/2 players u play with are prone to check raising the river with the nuts (or when they think it's the nuts),.or i could just be wrong..my 2centsTo be honest, I have a pretty good read on most of the players in the 1/2 game. But there's so many random goofy lines taken that, you can never discount anything.But yea, you're right, one player mucked, one showed AK (thank you for the 100 bucks) and another showed Q 9. So Q 9 definitely would have paid me off, not sure what the other hand was. Link to post Share on other sites
potatoman 0 Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Edit.Nah, I change my mind, upon a closer look at the flop - bet/fold. Link to post Share on other sites
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