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Reminds me of an old school cash plays episode with samolous and bart hansen . He said when you are really deep, that choosing lines becomes epically more important.If you c/c then you only put a max of one bet inIf you b/c then you only put a max of two bets inIf you c/r then you could potentially be putting three bets in. This is important when deeper since our equity with combo draws can change radically on the turn and different stack to pot ratios caused by these lines can limit our options on different turns.
FYP? Trying to vizualize this concept and it seemed to make more sense like this, or i could simply be misinterpreting it.
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This deserves to get seen by a few more people. From our resident Stupidhead...v1.27Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterHEM/Poker Stars NL Hold'em $1.00/$2.00 - 6 playersButton: $237.98SB: $200.00BB: $60.00

I remember when this thread was all about how bad KJ was at 3betting

He's probably not flatting KJ's raise otf if he had a2. Besides, A2 is such a small portion of his range here, we are never ever ever ever ever ever ever folding the turn. People are stupid, they do

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Interesting...He donk bet/folded to raise earlier, so when he flats this time, I really weight his range towards like Ax hands that he's probably never folding.Thoughts on turn?feral_cow_icon.gifFeral Cow Poker Hand ConverterPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersCO: $59.30 Button: $82.30 SB: $43.25 BB: $55.25 (Hero)UTG: $50.00 UTG+1: $52.70 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with :D:jh (6 players)4 folds, SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $2, SB calls $1.50Flop: ($4.00) :4h:club::ts (2 players)SB bets $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, SB calls $3Turn: ($13.00) :D (2 players)SB bets $9, Hero calls $9River: ($31.00) :5c (2 players)SB checks, Hero checksSB showed :3h:qh, and lost with high card AceHero showed :D :D, and won ($29.50) with a pair of DeucesHero won $29.50(Rake: $1.50)
So did you call because you figured it would be slightly +EV to chase the flush if your read is true and he's not folding his top pair regardless?$9 for a pot of $22 + his remaining $27,75 = 9 / 49,75 (9 / 49.75) / 9 = 1 / 5,527 risk 1 to win 5,527 with odds of 1 of 5,1 = winYes?Am i missing another motivation for this call? Only seems +EV if we know villain is calling is top pair down like +95% of the time. For all his stack.PS: Chance of hitting a flush on the river is 1 of 5,1 right? 9 spades left, 46 cards unseen.
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FYP? Trying to vizualize this concept and it seemed to make more sense like this, or i could simply be misinterpreting it.
you are correct. I accidentally a word or something of the sort.
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feral_cow_icon.gifA pack of feral cows chewed their cuds for .0043 seconds to convert this handPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.02/$0.05 - 9 playersUTG+1: $2.62 MP: $10.07 MP2: $2.30 HJ: $9.93 CO: $5.22 Button: $6.64 SB: $4.85 BB: $11.62 (Hero)UTG: $5.40 Preflop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with Tc.gif6c.gif (9 players)3 folds, MP2 calls $0.05, HJ calls $0.05, 3 folds, Hero checksFlop: ($0.17) Kc.gifAc.gifQc.gif (3 players)Hero bets $0.15, MP2 folds, HJ raises to $0.65, Hero raises to $3.75, Hero collected $1.40(Rake: $0.07)feral_cow_icon.gifFeral Cow Poker Hand ConverterPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.02/$0.05 - 9 playersUTG: $5.60 UTG+1: $4.67 MP: $13.50 (Hero)MP2: $2.97 HJ: $12.18 CO: $5.18 Button: $0.99 SB: $2.95 BB: $2.00 Preflop: ($0.07) Hero is MP with Kc.gifKs.gif (9 players)2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, MP2 folds, HJ raises to $0.40, 4 folds, Hero raises to $0.90, HJ calls $0.50Flop: ($1.87) As.gif7d.gif8c.gif (2 players)Hero checks, HJ bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25Turn: ($2.37) 4s.gif (2 players)Hero checks, HJ bets $0.30, Hero ?HJ collected $2.26(Rake: $0.11)---still in the session. too busy for details and explanations for now.enjoy
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feral_cow_icon.gifFeral Cow Poker Hand ConverterPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.02/$0.05 - 9 playersBB: $4.59 UTG: $10.70 UTG+1: $2.39 MP: $7.04 MP2: $5.15 HJ: $3.96 CO: $4.98 Button: $13.11 (Hero)SB: $4.77 Preflop: ($0.07) Hero is Button with 4s.gifQs.gif (9 players)6 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, SB calls $0.13, BB foldsFlop: ($0.35) 2c.gif6c.gif8s.gif (2 players)SB checks, Hero checksTurn: ($0.35) Js.gif (2 players)SB bets $0.05, Hero raises to $0.30, SB calls $0.25River: ($0.95) Ah.gif (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $0.60Good spot to barrel?
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feral_cow_icon.gifConverted by a herd of feral cowsPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.02/$0.05 - 9 playersHJ: $7.52 CO: $4.07 Button: $11.68 (Hero)SB: $6.11 BB: $2.26 UTG: $8.45 UTG+1: $10.70 MP: $5.76 MP2: $10.47 Preflop: ($0.07) Hero is Button with Kh.gifTh.gif (9 players)4 folds, HJ raises to $0.20, CO folds, Hero calls $0.20, 2 foldsFlop: ($0.47) 6c.gifTc.gif5d.gif (2 players)HJ bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30Turn: ($1.07) 6s.gif (2 players)HJ bets $0.70, Hero ?
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on the flush hand, u are wayyy overbetting in this spot. i would make it between $2 and $2.50 there. once u do that, it should be easy to get stacks in by the river. with the KK.. i am not folding for what he is betting. call and take notes on what he bets super small with if anythingon the Q4 btn hand.. i would be cbetting that flop KT is close, but i probly call turn and fold to a river bet. did u have any reads on the guy or what were ur reasons for flatting pre?that hand might be a good spot to 3bet.. but i doubt 3betting at 5nl is a good idea without really strong hands

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First hand at table. As soon as the SB just calls I felt weird but W/E run it onceferal_cow_icon.gifonce a cow has a taste for violence, it reverts. it becomes feral.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersBB: $50.00 (Hero)UTG: $50.00 UTG+1: $25.00 CO: $50.00 Button: $114.75 SB: $138.45 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with :D:club: (6 players)UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $1.75, CO folds, Button calls $1.75, SB raises to $8, Hero calls $7.50, UTG+1 raises to $25, and is all in, Button folds, SB calls $17, Hero raises to $50, and is all in, SB calls $25Flop: ($126.75) :4h:5c:D (3 players)Turn: ($126.75) :ts (3 players)River: ($126.75) :qh (3 players)Hero showed :D:ts, and won ($123.75) with four of a kind, QueensUTG+1 showed :jh:3h, and lost with two pair, Kings and QueensSB showed :D:club:, and lost with two pair, Aces and QueensHero won $123.75(Rake: $3)

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So...Who wants to trade for 50 FT dollars?
it normally works like thisHi guys,Have $50 FTPNeeds $50 PS, AP, Party Pokerz, whatev...You need to give moar detailsHappy Birthday, Bellairedrew
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it normally works like thisHi guys,Have $50 FTPNeeds $50 PS, AP, Party Pokerz, whatev...You need to give moar detailsHappy Birthday, Bellairedrew
I figured I'd get a PM if someone was actually interested. Stars or AP. $45 would work for the $50. Ez five dorrah
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meh.. poker-R-funbuilt the bankroll bank up a little bit so i decided to bumhunt some 50nl. yay fish :club:feral_cow_icon.gifv1.24Feral Cow PokerPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 2 playersBB Hero: $62.85 Button Pirikito083: $32.15 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with :D: :5c: (2 players)Pirikito083 raises to $2, Hero calls $1.50Flop: ($4.00) :D: :jh: :D: (2 players)Hero checks, Pirikito083 checksTurn: ($4.00) :club:: (2 players)Hero bets $2.50, Pirikito083 calls $2.50River: ($9.00) :ts: (2 players)Hero checks, Pirikito083 bets $27.65 and is all-in, Hero calls $27.65Hero showed :D: :3h:, and lost with a full house, Fours full of JacksPirikito083 showed :4h: :qh:, and won ($63.80) with a full house, Eights full of JacksPirikito083 won $63.80(Rake: $0.50)this guy was pretty LOL.. he donkbet atleast 75% of flops when i raised the btn. at first he was folding to my raise of his donkbet.. then he started calling down with bottom pair and such.. so i quit raising the donks with air and started doin it with equity hands and midpair, top pair. finally got the better of him in the end tho.

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So...Who wants to trade for 50 FT dollars?
Problem solved. FCP posters faster than FT support! How sad is that?FWIW I did finally get money from FT after 2 months of waiting even though they forcibly switched me to a wire transfer. They compensated the fees with full tilt dollars which totally defeated the purpose of making a closing withdraw on that account... so thank you sir, you know who you are.
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meh.. poker-R-funbuilt the bankroll bank up a little bit so i decided to bumhunt some 50nl. yay fish :club:feral_cow_icon.gifv1.24Feral Cow PokerPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 2 playersBB Hero: $62.85 Button Pirikito083: $32.15 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with :D: :5c: (2 players)Pirikito083 raises to $2, Hero calls $1.50Flop: ($4.00) :D: :jh: :D: (2 players)Hero checks, Pirikito083 checksTurn: ($4.00) :club:: (2 players)Hero bets $2.50, Pirikito083 calls $2.50River: ($9.00) :ts: (2 players)Hero checks, Pirikito083 bets $27.65 and is all-in, Hero calls $27.65Hero showed :D: :3h:, and lost with a full house, Fours full of JacksPirikito083 showed :4h: :qh:, and won ($63.80) with a full house, Eights full of JacksPirikito083 won $63.80(Rake: $0.50)this guy was pretty LOL.. he donkbet atleast 75% of flops when i raised the btn. at first he was folding to my raise of his donkbet.. then he started calling down with bottom pair and such.. so i quit raising the donks with air and started doin it with equity hands and midpair, top pair. finally got the better of him in the end tho.
Bet $3-$3.50 on the turn... Pot or close to it the riversigh at being under-set tho :ts
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on the flush hand, u are wayyy overbetting in this spot. i would make it between $2 and $2.50 there. once u do that, it should be easy to get stacks in by the river. with the KK.. i am not folding for what he is betting. call and take notes on what he bets super small with if anythingon the Q4 btn hand.. i would be cbetting that flop KT is close, but i probly call turn and fold to a river bet. did u have any reads on the guy or what were ur reasons for flatting pre?that hand might be a good spot to 3bet.. but i doubt 3betting at 5nl is a good idea without really strong hands
Yes, i totally did overbet the flush. I don't know why though. I may have had lots going on other table, and i remember i didn't feel comfortable with my hand there. Which is obviously a mistake.I didn't c-bet the Q4s on that flop because i found it way too draw heavy. Also wasn't the first time i c-betted on that table so i figured i'd check that one. But i really wonder if that is a good spot to barrel. I didn't want to lose to a busted draw or a pair of jacks, figured the ace could be a good scarecard.On the KT hand, well, he bet in late position and i was dealer. Since we were both deep, i didn't mind seeing a flop there.
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Have I ever told you guys how much I :club: regs??feral_cow_icon.gifFeral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 5 playersUTG: $26.10 CO: $25.00 Button: $25.00 SB: $63.00 (Hero)BB: $30.24 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with Kh.gifKc.gif (5 players)2 folds, Button raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.50, BB folds, Button calls $1.75Flop: ($5.25) 2d.gif6c.gifTd.gif (2 players)Hero bets $2.20, Button calls $2.20Turn: ($9.65) 4s.gif (2 players)Hero bets $4.80, Button raises to $10.50, Hero raises to $41.15, Button calls $9.80, and is all inRiver: ($50.25) 2s.gif (2 players)Button showed Jc.gifAd.gif, and lost with a pair of TwosHero showed Kh.gifKc.gif, and won ($47.74) with two pair, Kings and TwosHero won $47.74(Rake: $2.51)

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What's with all the hands of villains spewing all their chips away on air. Am i missing some sick action right now?
1. Open online poker client2. Pick any micro stakes limit3. Table select4. Play reasonably tight5. Profitez gameI also sit at tables with trystero under the ruse that there is a fish he shouldn't miss out on...
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lol at folding AA in a 3bet pot 100bb deep
110bb deep though. =)And if he felted it on the flop or turn, probably no worries. However, the way he chose to felt it on the river...I just can't figure out how his hand is ever good there.
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****ing Pstars trying to get my account up and running for the Neg-o so I can steamroll JamesWe have identified that you already have an account with an ID of queynte. Our Terms and Conditions clearly state that only one account per player is permitted.!!!!!!!! yes but I don't have that email address anymore!!!!!

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