SuperJon 175 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 So I'm not exactly sure what to do here, if I can even do anything.This past Saturday I went to the poker room I go to almost every Saturday. I ended up cashing out for a little over $800, and received 8 $100 bills. On Sunday I gave my parents $200 to help out around the house. Today, my dad brought it to the bank, and was told that one of the bills was counterfeit. They kept the bill to send to the Local Secret Service Office, and gave him a copy of the Counterfeit Note Report (which I now have).Tonight, I went to the Treasury website, and checked the rest of my bills. All watermarks, microprinting, colors, etc. are legit.I plan on calling and/or visiting the poker room tomorrow. Do I have any sort of case against them, or am I S.O.L? I mean, everytime I've ever bought chips with a $100 bill, they also mark it with the pen. Something I would assume they would do with every $100 bill they touch.Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I would probably go back to the casino with the counterfeit report in hand, and ask them for another $100 (plus a bonus for your trouble). If they are anything other than helpful you should just sick the Secret Service on them. I'm sure the last thing they want is the Secret Service investigating inside their casino. Unless, did you or your dad already explain to your bank where you got the bill? Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 Unless, did you or your dad already explain to your bank where you got the bill?Yes, at the bottom of the report in the remarks section, the bank wrote:"customer got bill from son who got it from poker room in daytona beach." Link to post Share on other sites
Jariso13 1 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Yes, at the bottom of the report in the remarks section, the bank wrote:"customer got bill from son who got it from poker room in daytona beach."i think your sol and will be told that you should have checked the money before you left...once you accept it one cant really proove where you got it from...all the report says is where you said you got it from...no proof...or maybe your dad has a stash of counterfits and is dragging you into his sick and twisted scam... Link to post Share on other sites
Jariso13 1 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 unless they can pull the tapes and see the serial number on the bill they gave you of course... Link to post Share on other sites
Pot Odds RAC 23 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 You're SOL.Get ready to hear "Check your beills before leaving the cage, we use a detector pen on all incoming $100 bills."Seriously. Otherwise every stinking time someone found a counterfeit bill they'd head to the Casino with a SS report....and no way they are sweating a SS visit as a result of this. Link to post Share on other sites
gatortom64 1 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Shoot them in the face with a bazooka. Link to post Share on other sites
Stiles2004 0 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 On a slightly related note, if I ever had a counterfeit bill, I`d take it to the casino, where they never check it at tables gamest o see if it`s legitMaybe someone else thought the same way Link to post Share on other sites
Jariso13 1 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Shoot them in the face with a bazooka. Link to post Share on other sites
sKIjaKuDa 0 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 On a slightly related note, if I ever had a counterfeit bill, I`d take it to the casino, where they never check it at tables gamest o see if it`s legitMaybe someone else thought the same wayGood point and most likely when that 100 went to the cage someone didn't do their job. I would still mention it to the Casino so they know and maybe they can improve their internal process. I doubt you will get a hundred but you may get a free lunch. (weeee) Link to post Share on other sites
SlapStick 0 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 or maybe your dad has a stash of counterfits and is dragging you into his sick and twisted scam...this obv Link to post Share on other sites
Pivvy2001 0 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I would probably go back to the casino with the counterfeit report in hand, and ask them for another $100 (plus a bonus for your trouble). If they are anything other than helpful you should just sick the Secret Service on them. I'm sure the last thing they want is the Secret Service investigating inside their casino. Unless, did you or your dad already explain to your bank where you got the bill?Was this a level?As noted many times below: the situation sucks, but you are definitely SOL superjon. Hopefully this doesn't happen again. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Good point and most likely when that 100 went to the cage someone didn't do their job. I would still mention it to the Casino so they know and maybe they can improve their internal process. I doubt you will get a hundred but you may get a free lunch. (weeee) This. And you are SOL. And, no, I bet NO ONE HERE carries their own pen and checks their bills. Besides ... who takes poker $$$$ to a bank? Link to post Share on other sites
Pot Odds RAC 23 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 ...I bet NO ONE HERE carries their own pen and checks their bills...Perhaps not, but at tables where $100 Bills play, I have asked Dealers to use their "Magic Pen" to validate bills given to me by other Players.I have also heard of players who carry a UV Flashlight on their key ring to check chips and bills at the Cage. Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 Perhaps not, but at tables where $100 Bills play, I have asked Dealers to use their "Magic Pen" to validate bills given to me by other Players.I have also heard of players who carry a UV Flashlight on their key ring to check chips and bills at the Cage.The issue with the bill I had was that the watermark of Franklin wasn't actually Franklin.Until yesterday, I never even knew there was a watermark of the portrait. Link to post Share on other sites
Jariso13 1 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 The issue with the bill I had was that the watermark of Franklin wasn't actually Franklin.Until yesterday, I never even knew there was a watermark of the portrait.If you have the serial # of the counterfeit bill on the official report that was given to you the casino should be able to pull the tapes of your transaction at the cage and match the serials. Being that its only $100 chances are you would have to make a huge stink to get them to spend the time doing this. As soon as you started your stink they would probably start offering you other things. The key is to talk to the right person, which will most likely take place via the phone. Im not sure that approaching a random floor man on duty will be enough to get you the decision you are looking for.Most likely you are not the first person that this has has happened too. Im sure some type of precedent has been set at that casino and they have procedures to follow. I would do a quick search of the internet, im sure someone has posted a similar story with the what happened at the end of it. The question is, is the $100 worth the aggravation of getting it back... Link to post Share on other sites
Pot Odds RAC 23 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 If you have the serial # of the counterfeit bill on the official report that was given to you the casino should be able to pull the tapes of your transaction at the cage and match the serials. Being that its only $100 chances are you would have to make a huge stink to get them to spend the time doing this. As soon as you started your stink they would probably start offering you other things. The key is to talk to the right person, which will most likely take place via the phone. Im not sure that approaching a random floor man on duty will be enough to get you the decision you are looking for.Most likely you are not the first person that this has has happened too. Im sure some type of precedent has been set at that casino and they have procedures to follow. I would do a quick search of the internet, im sure someone has posted a similar story with the what happened at the end of it. The question is, is the $100 worth the aggravation of getting it back...They often cannot tell the suits and values of cards on Security cameras. Unlikely the resolution is going to be able to support a serial number on a single bill amongst $800 being cashed out. Plus going into the archives of security tapes is likely difficult. IMO there is 0% chance the Casino is going to take the move of opening their liability in a situation where they are currently clean because a guy (even a regular) claims he got a bad bill form the cage. Like saying "it is a Player's responsibility to protect your hand", the Casino will repeat the mantra of "check your bills and chips before leaving the cage". I can't really blame them actually. Link to post Share on other sites
MaxStPolish 4 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 or maybe your dad has a stash of counterfits and is dragging you into his sick and twisted scam... Besides ... who takes poker $$$$ to a bank?Two of the better posts I've seen on here. Classic. Link to post Share on other sites
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