ltrainkoja55 0 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 we all know men is a jerk. Bonomo gives a history lesson-- pretty good readhttp://www.justinbonomo.com/index_blog.php Link to post Share on other sites
Chet Chetterson 0 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 This was awesome to read. Men does deserve it. Link to post Share on other sites
FARGOpokerND 22 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I love everything about Bonomo.I hate everything about Men. Link to post Share on other sites
Oziumrules 0 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Funny Bonomo calling out a cheater but Men is a complete douche and he is right on about him. Link to post Share on other sites
Ko8e34 0 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Sigh @ him losing the hand, epic story tho. Glad he shipped it. Link to post Share on other sites
chrispycream 0 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Funny Bonomo calling out a cheater but Men is a complete douche and he is right on about him.Yeah, I was thinking this as well. Even though Men deserves to be outed, maybe someone besides Bonomo should have done it. Link to post Share on other sites
Cappy37 0 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Yeah, I was thinking this as well. Even though Men deserves to be outed, maybe someone besides Bonomo should have done it.I dunno, in one sense, it's actually 100x more damning to be called out by a "peer"... Like if a porn star went on Oprah, getting called "slutty" by Oprah wouldn't make you as the audience flinch.. If one of the dirtiest sluts in the porn starlet industry called her that though, it'd turn heads and have much more teeth behind it. Link to post Share on other sites
bbgun 0 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Yeah, I was thinking this as well. Even though Men deserves to be outed, maybe someone besides Bonomo should have done it.This isn't something new...Men has been accused of cheating for years. DN has made several allegations. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Men's cheating is on a whole other level than Bonomo's. Link to post Share on other sites
Vtlaxer09 4 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 bonomo served his time with grace and now is a great ambassador for the game. He ****ed up but unlike most of the other **** ups in the online poker world, he actually accepted his punishment and now is in good graces with most of the poker world.lol at men Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 bonomo served his time with grace and now is a great ambassador for the game. He ****ed up but unlike most of the other **** ups in the online poker world, he actually accepted his punishment and now is in good graces with most of the poker world.lol at men:this. He was a very young kid who learned his lesson about something that was in mirky moral ground to begin with. Men has collusion teams and steals chips Link to post Share on other sites
Stiles2004 0 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I ****ing love men Link to post Share on other sites
blakheart 3 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I ****ing love menfag Link to post Share on other sites
Fluffdog87 2 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 we all know men is a jerk. Bonomo gives a history lesson-- pretty good readhttp://www.justinbonomo.com/index_blog.php lol Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 i've seen Men being rude to dealers at commerce too. can't stand that guy. Link to post Share on other sites
steve7stud 0 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I'm going to give my perspective on things.When I first started in poker, I did business with Men.Everything was totally legit. He never asked me to do anything that even slightly resembled unethical behavior. And I personally have never seen him collude. Some people said it's because I'm not Vietnemase, I have no clue. He always treated me with respect. And I specifically remember one time I made a final table at a tournament at the Bike. I called him and he showed up at 4am with his wife to support me. That meant a lot to me. I moved on after a brief period of dealing with him, and we parted ways on very good terms. I've obviously heard from plenty of people that Men has cheated in the past, but again I didn't see it. I find it hard to believe that an employee of the hotel just so happened to find a duffle bag full of tournament chips. These are not things that guys like that care about, nor would I imagine they pay attention to.Justin on the other hand was caught red handed cheating. Many people created threads discussing how they hated him, and that he should be banned for life, etc, etc, etc. I don't know Justin at all. I'm sure he learned from his mistakes and is moving on and doing well. He obviously has a lot of talent. Over the years I have played in tons of cash games with Men. It's true that he can be abusive at the table, and I'm not a fan of anyone soft playing. So yes, these things bother me. However, you would be shocked to find out how many high stakes pros are abusive toward dealers.I wish the poker world was black and white, but often you will see many shades of gray.I personally have always played the game with the utmost integrity, and wish that everyone would do the same........I'm not defending or criticizing anyones behavior at the table. But I think it's important to get both sides of every story.And again, it is not my place to judge. Plenty of people have done things in poker that you don't know about it.........they just slipped under the radar.fwiw.......Steve Link to post Share on other sites
rcgs59 15 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 bonomo served his time with grace and now is a great ambassador for the game. He ****ed up but unlike most of the other **** ups in the online poker world, he actually accepted his punishment and now is in good graces with most of the poker world.lol at menmy god Vt , you do have a human side and I noticing you are actually maturing. look out poker world We have a new Vt and I think I actually like this one <3 Vt Link to post Share on other sites
Jam-Fly 8 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I'm going to give my perspective on things.When I first started in poker, I did business with Men.Everything was totally legit. He never asked me to do anything that even slightly resembled unethical behavior. And I personally have never seen him collude. Some people said it's because I'm not Vietnemase, I have no clue. He always treated me with respect. And I specifically remember one time I made a final table at a tournament at the Bike. I called him and he showed up at 4am with his wife to support me. That meant a lot to me. I moved on after a brief period of dealing with him, and we parted ways on very good terms. I've obviously heard from plenty of people that Men has cheated in the past, but again I didn't see it. I find it hard to believe that an employee of the hotel just so happened to find a duffle bag full of tournament chips. These are not things that guys like that care about, nor would I imagine they pay attention to.Justin on the other hand was caught red handed cheating. Many people created threads discussing how they hated him, and that he should be banned for life, etc, etc, etc. I don't know Justin at all. I'm sure he learned from his mistakes and is moving on and doing well. He obviously has a lot of talent. Over the years I have played in tons of cash games with Men. It's true that he can be abusive at the table, and I'm not a fan of anyone soft playing. So yes, these things bother me. However, you would be shocked to find out how many high stakes pros are abusive toward dealers.I wish the poker world was black and white, but often you will see many shades of gray.I personally have always played the game with the utmost integrity, and wish that everyone would do the same........I'm not defending or criticizing anyones behavior at the table. But I think it's important to get both sides of every story.And again, it is not my place to judge. Plenty of people have done things in poker that you don't know about it.........they just slipped under the radar.fwiw.......SteveMen was also caught red handed in SEVERAL situations, and I am sure there is more people that hate Men than hate Justin (even though public opinion doesn't really have anything to do with it). You say "I've obviously heard from plenty of people that Men has cheated in the past, but again I didn't see it." You also have not seen Justin cheat, have you? I'm sure you've heard 'stories' about both players, but if you feel you have to see something first hand to accept it, then both Justin and Men should be seen as honest players from your perspective. You cannot say in one breath "Yeah I've heard Men is bad, but never seen it myself, therefore, I think he is okay", but then say "I've never met Justin, but he was a dirty rotten cheater. Hopefully he's moved on because he has a lot of talent."You the say "It's true that he can be abusive at the table, and I'm not a fan of anyone soft playing. So yes, these things bother me. However, you would be shocked to find out how many high stakes pros are abusive toward dealers." LOL...Yeah, I'm sure there are alot of respected pros abusive to dealers. It's no big shock that most poker players are dicks. However, being abusive to dealers and being a cheater (that is what soft-playing is, cheating) are two completely different things. I'm sure there a lot of respected pros who are abusive to dealers, but I'm also sure that 99% of those are not cheaters. And also, even if there were a lot of dealer abusers and cheaters, that still makes it no less acceptable for Men to be one. Just because "all the other pros are being abusive to dealers" does not mean Men is entitled to be abusive to dealers. Men is a cheater, fact. Men is scum, my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
irishguy 14 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 You say "I've obviously heard from plenty of people that Men has cheated in the past, but again I didn't see it." You also have not seen Justin cheat, have you? I'm sure you've heard 'stories' about both players, but if you feel you have to see something first hand to accept it, then both Justin and Men should be seen as honest players from your perspective. You cannot say in one breath "Yeah I've heard Men is bad, but never seen it myself, therefore, I think he is okay", but then say "I've never met Justin, but he was a dirty rotten cheater. Hopefully he's moved on because he has a lot of talent." The difference is you don't need to have seen that Justin cheated to be able to call him a cheater. He has admitted it and apologized for it, while to my knowledge Men has never done so, so your point here isn't valid at all. I understand judging someone based on how you've seen them, how they've treated you but imo there are far to many Men cheating stories out there from multiple sources for there not to be truth in it. Link to post Share on other sites
ncperrotta069 0 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Jam-Fly>steve7stud/thread Link to post Share on other sites
steve7stud 0 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Jam-Fly>steve7stud/threadMakes sense to me. Link to post Share on other sites
I_fold08 1 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Jam-Fly<steve7stud/threadfypall steve did was tell his personal experience with men, he didnt go to bat for men. you are getting all bent out of shape for misinterpreting what steve wrote. Link to post Share on other sites
SGFULTON83 0 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I have a belly button. Link to post Share on other sites
Vtlaxer09 4 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 with this post and several others i've decided i dont like jam fly. Link to post Share on other sites
ncperrotta069 0 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Snamuh>i_fold08lock it up Link to post Share on other sites
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