SuperJon 175 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 2.20 $4,000 GuaranteedPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00+$0.20 Tournament, 800/1600 Blinds 150 Ante (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comSB (t24056)BB (t84249)UTG (t42196)UTG+1 (t6750)MP1 (t81134)MP2 (t42146)Hero (MP3) (t48880)CO (t74113)Button (t32862)Hero's M: 13.03Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q, Q2 folds, MP1 bets t4800, 1 fold, Hero calls t4800, 4 foldsFlop: (t13350) 2, 4, 2(2 players)MP1 bets t76184 (All-In), Hero?I've only been at the table for a few hands, no reads. A few hands ago I recently doubled up through the big stack who called my all in (I had KK) with K10s.1. How often is this shove a big hand like AA or KK?2. How often is it a hand like 88-JJ trying to protect?3. I can understand a shove PF, but with my stack size and several people to act after me, I felt like calling was the best option. Until he shoved, and then I was put to a big test. Link to post Share on other sites
potatoman 0 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Call, unless, maybe...:You think villain thinks you're a super nit.You have a strong read that villain only pulls this move with KK or better.Otherwise I feel this is 88-JJ, AK too often to fold. Link to post Share on other sites
cdipierr 0 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Fistpump call. No way he gives you credit for anything as good as QQ here. Link to post Share on other sites
pokerinc 0 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 definitely calling all day here. Link to post Share on other sites
KappaKid83 0 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Fistpump call. No way he gives you credit for anything as good as QQ here.+1Jeff Link to post Share on other sites
Yahkin 0 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 CallAnd stop limping big pocket pairs. Link to post Share on other sites
SGFULTON83 0 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I haven't read any replies yet. Why are we not all-in preflop? I think this is a call on the flop as well, this is AK alot. Link to post Share on other sites
three eight offsuit 0 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 reraise call all in pf as played never ever fold Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I actually don't mind the flat call PF provided it is with the intention of getting the rest of his chips on a favorable flop. Hero recently pushed KK so flat-calling here adds a bit of deception to his hand.There is no way you can fold this flop based on the remote possibility of AA/KK. Besides, shoving this flop with a big hand would be completely idiotic. Link to post Share on other sites
SGFULTON83 0 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I actually don't mind the flat call PF provided it is with the intention of getting the rest of his chips on a favorable flop. Hero recently pushed KK so flat-calling here adds a bit of deception to his hand.There is no way you can fold this flop based on the remote possibility of AA/KK. Besides, shoving this flop with a big hand would be completely idiotic.Be careful what you wish for. Link to post Share on other sites
Yahkin 0 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Meh...I guess you didn't limp, you called a raise. Up too late last night. It's not horrible, but I really prefer raising. Make those mid pockets make a decision before they see a flop.Post flop we have to call. Villain shoving AA or KK here makes no sense. Him shoving AK or a mid pocket does. (Of course that assumes what bad players do makes sense...lol) Link to post Share on other sites
Biff Goods 0 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 AA KK 2x 44 vs 55 66 77 88 99 1010 JJ AK AQ AJ and sad to say.....A3 and A5. All four hands in the "beat you" category probably try and trap you with a smaller bet or a check. PH snap call. Link to post Share on other sites
donk4life 34 Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 3-bet PF, flatting here is pretty bad IMO.And I can't describe how fast I would be calling here. Link to post Share on other sites
outsider13 0 Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 +1JeffThis. Mostly because I'm Jeff Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted April 18, 2009 Author Share Posted April 18, 2009 After he shoved, I actually time banked for about 25 seconds. It just seemed like such a strange play to me, and it really felt like he was either:A. Putting me on overs and trying to protect his hand.B. Putting me on a mid pocket pair and trying to induce a call with a slightly higher pair.After banking for the 25 seconds, I eventually made the call. He showed JJ and didn't improve.About 15 hands later I get it all in on the flop K 10 7 with AA againt KQ. Runner runner straight. Link to post Share on other sites
TrueAce13 18 Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 There should be no reason we aren't 3betting PF tbh Yeah, but there is no way you should be folding here. Ever Link to post Share on other sites
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