DanielNegreanu 141 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 May 28th: $40,000 No Limit Hold'emMay 29th: $40,000 No Limit Hold'em (Day 2)May 30th: $40,000 No Limit Hold'em (Day 3)May 31st: $40,000 No Limit Hold'em (Final Table)June 1st: 5pm $10,000 7 Card Stud June 2nd: $10,000 7 Card Stud (Day 2)June 3rd: $10,000 7 Card Stud (Final Table)June 4th: 5pm $10,000 Mixed GamesJune 5th: 5pm $2500 Limit Hold'em (6 handed)June 6th: 12pm $5000 No Limit Hold'emJune 7th: 5pm $10,000 Omaha 8June 8th: $10,000 Omaha 8 (Day 2)June 9th: 5pm $3000 HORSEJune 10th: 5pm $10,000 2-7 NL LowballJune 11th: 5pm $2500 Stud 8/Omaha 8June 12th: 12pm $1500 Limit Hold'emJune 13th: 5pm $10,000 NLH Heads UpJune 14th: 12pm $2500 PLO/PLHJune 15th: 5pm $10,000 Limit Hold'emJune 16th: $10,000 Limit Hold'em (Day 2)June 17th: 12pm $5000 Pot Limit OmahaJune 18th: 5pm $10,000 Stud 8June 19th: 12pm $2000 Limit Hold'emJune 20th: 5pm $10,000 Pot Limit OmahaJune 21st: 12pm $5000 No Limit Hold'em ShootoutJune 21st: 5pm $2500 Mixed GamesJune 22nd: DAY OFFJune 23rd: 12pm $10,000 Pot Limit Hold'emJune 23rd: 5pm $2500 Omaha 8June 24: DAY OFFJune 25: DAY OFFJune 26th: $50,000 HORSEJune 27th: $50,000 HORSE (Day 2)June 28th: $3000 Triple Chance No Limit Hold'emJune 28th: $1500 Stud 8June 29th: $2500 2-7 Triple DrawJune 30th: $5000 No Limit Hold'em (6 Max)July 5th: $10,000 No Limit Hold'em (Day 1C)July 8th: $10,000 No Limit Hold'em (Day 2)July 10th: $10,000 No Limit Hold'em (Day 3)July 11th: $10,000 No Limit Hold'em (Day 4)July 12th: $10,000 No Limit Hold'em (Day 5)July 13th: $10,000 No LImit Hold'em (Day 6)July 14th: Play down to 27July 15th: Play down to 9Max number of events played: 27Breakdown by Game:No Limit Hold'em 7Mixed Game Events 6Limit Hold'em 4Omaha 8 or better 22-7 Lowball 2Pot Limit Omaha 2Stud 8 or better 2Pot Limit Hold'em 17 Card Stud 1 Link to post Share on other sites
CrAcKeDaCeS 0 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 That pretty much mirrors what my WSOP schedule will look like too....ya know, other than all the events. Link to post Share on other sites
slink 1 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Wow. Last year there many NLHE events at 2000 and under and I had been considering one of them this year. I don't see any this year. Why the drastic change? Are the pros tired of being dominated at the lower buy-in? Link to post Share on other sites
DanielNegreanu 141 Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share Posted January 25, 2009 Wow. Last year there many NLHE events at 2000 and under and I had been considering one of them this year. I don't see any this year. Why the drastic change? Are the pros tired of being dominated at the lower buy-in? Dude, these are the events I'M playing and I don't bother with those small buy in NLH events. Never did, never will... Link to post Share on other sites
deadlysyns 0 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Dude, these are the events I'M playing and I don't bother with those small buy in NLH events. Never did, never will...Can you post the complete schedule?How many PLO8 events? Link to post Share on other sites
rcgs59 15 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 So the schedule is posted on the WSOP website now?thx Danieledit not on web site yet just checked Link to post Share on other sites
outsider13 0 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I looked for the complete schedule and can't find it anywhere. You sir must be special Link to post Share on other sites
deadlysyns 0 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 So the schedule is posted on the WSOP website now?thx DanielIts not on the WSOP website yet. Link to post Share on other sites
rcgs59 15 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Daniel what day is the Ladies event please and ty Link to post Share on other sites
slink 1 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Dude, these are the events I'M playing and I don't bother with those small buy in NLH events. Never did, never will...Oh. I didn't see where you said they were your events, Bro.Guess I should have inferred that from the summary at the bottom of your post. Link to post Share on other sites
Chet Chetterson 0 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 DN,I take it from your schedule and the lack of a Main Event final table that they are trying the November Nine set up again? Link to post Share on other sites
JP OSU 0 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Daniel, registered for this forum just to ask this, could you plzplzplzplzplzplzplz post the rest of the WSOP schedule? Link to post Share on other sites
BrandonPL 0 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Daniel, could you plzplzplzplzplzplzplz post the rest of the WSOP schedule?^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Daniel, registered for this forum just to ask this, could you plzplzplzplzplzplzplz post the rest of the WSOP schedule? http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/poker/news/story?id=3860083 Link to post Share on other sites
thebottomline 0 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I see you've mentioned Day 2 and 3s and FTs of some events, but others that would clash with other events start days have not been mentioned. Is this a case of if you're knocked out early in one tournament you will play the ones mentioned, but if you're knocked out of the events where you've listed all possible playing days then you'll rest instead?I'm tired, and think I've worded that horribly, hope you know what I mean. Link to post Share on other sites
UsIreland 0 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 From His Blog:Tournament Structures: These have not been released or finalized yet, but I want to share my thoughts anyway since this is a topic I'm very passionate about. Here is a simple fact, a fact that should make absolute sense to everyone: the higher the buy in, the more you pay in juice. The higher the buy in, the better the tournament structure should be.This should be a given! So you shouldn't be shocked or surprised to see that the $5000 no limit event has a much better structure than the $1500 event. That's the way it should be across the board. The amount of play in any given tournament should be directly tied to the buy in. So, if you plan on playing the $1500 events, you should expect the structure to have a much faster pace than the $10,000 events.One more thing: Since the smaller events require faster paced structures, when you devise a structure for the event you must cut corners and speed it up in certain spots. It makes a lot more sense to speed up play in the early stages so that when the big money is being played for, it doesn't become a crap shoot. If it's going to be a bit of a crap shoot at any point, then it should be in the early stages. For example, if you had to eliminate the 150-300 level from a $1500 event or the 1500-3000 limit from the event, which will have a more significant impact on the structure? Going from 100-200 to 200-400 is a big jump, but going from 1000-2000 and 2000-4000 at the late stages of an event would make it an absolute crap shoot. If you had to choose, it should seem obvious that omitting levels in the early stages is the best approach.DanielIn a way I agree with you, yes you should get a better structure in higher buy in events, but the 1500events should not have bad structures either. Your paying in the region of $150 in fees. This is a substantial amount of money, every table is effectively handing over 1 buy in and yet the tourneys get 3k chips, and not all the levels. This is not acceptable in my opinion. What needs to be done is to start out with the 1500events as a base point, implement a good structure for them, and for every other higher buy in event, improve on that. It is the World Series of Poker after all. I've played in $300 tourneys with better structures than the 5k events at the WSOP.For starters, the 1500events should have 4500chips. 1hr clock, and a structure that goes like this:25-5050-10075-150100-200150-300150-300-25200-400-50300-600-75400-800-100500-1000-100600-1200-200800-1600-2001000-2000-3001500-3000-4002000-4000-5003000-6000-5004000-8000-10005000-10000-10006000-12000-20008000-16000-200010000-20000-3000And repeat from here adding zeros.Every other structure can be an improvement on this. The 5k event should be 15kstarting with at least a 75min clock, preferably a 90min clock.RegardsIan Link to post Share on other sites
JMnsto 0 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Hey Daniel, how come you're not playing either of the PLO8 events? It's a fun game and I'm sure it has a lot of value to it. Link to post Share on other sites
DanielNegreanu 141 Posted February 2, 2009 Author Share Posted February 2, 2009 DanielIn a way I agree with you, yes you should get a better structure in higher buy in events, but the 1500events should not have bad structures either. Your paying in the region of $150 in fees. This is a substantial amount of money, every table is effectively handing over 1 buy in and yet the tourneys get 3k chips, and not all the levels. This is not acceptable in my opinion. What needs to be done is to start out with the 1500events as a base point, implement a good structure for them, and for every other higher buy in event, improve on that. It is the World Series of Poker after all. I've played in $300 tourneys with better structures than the 5k events at the WSOP.For starters, the 1500events should have 4500chips. 1hr clock, and a structure that goes like this:25-5050-10075-150100-200150-300150-300-25200-400-50300-600-75400-800-100500-1000-100600-1200-200800-1600-2001000-2000-3001500-3000-4002000-4000-5003000-6000-5004000-8000-10005000-10000-10006000-12000-20008000-16000-200010000-20000-3000And repeat from here adding zeros.Every other structure can be an improvement on this. The 5k event should be 15kstarting with at least a 75min clock, preferably a 90min clock.RegardsIan The $1500 structures ARE good. They are very good, but obviously not as good as other big events at the WSOP. The structure you put forth would create events that took far too long to complete. If you used this structure as a base structure for a $1500 event, good luck coming up with a much better structure for the $10,000 buy in events. The WSOP offers close to 60 events. If you make all of the tournaments take five days, then people won't get a chance to play in many of the tournaments they'd like to play in. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 The $1500 structures ARE good. They are very good, but obviously not as good as other big events at the WSOP. The structure you put forth would create events that took far too long to complete. If you used this structure as a base structure for a $1500 event, good luck coming up with a much better structure for the $10,000 buy in events. The WSOP offers close to 60 events. If you make all of the tournaments take five days, then people won't get a chance to play in many of the tournaments they'd like to play in.How big do you expect the 40k to get and how much better of a structure is that going to have? I'm assuming 80k starting stacks and same levels as the main? Link to post Share on other sites
DanielNegreanu 141 Posted February 5, 2009 Author Share Posted February 5, 2009 How big do you expect the 40k to get and how much better of a structure is that going to have? I'm assuming 80k starting stacks and same levels as the main? We haven't done the structures yet, but no, I don't think the structure will be as good as the ME, but I'm going to push for it. It's scheduled for four days... Link to post Share on other sites
nutzbuster 7 Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 How big do you expect the 40k to get and how much better of a structure is that going to have? I'm assuming 80k starting stacks and same levels as the main?LOL Looshle! is Mark loving that you used him for your Av? lmao.... that pic rules We haven't done the structures yet, but no, I don't think the structure will be as good as the ME, but I'm going to push for it. It's scheduled for four days...ME structure = one of, if not thee, best imo. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 We haven't done the structures yet, but no, I don't think the structure will be as good as the ME, but I'm going to push for it. It's scheduled for four days...I guess the worse structure, the better in my case. Against players of your caliber, my edge would be non existant at 100bb stacks, but slightly +EV in <25bb effective stacks imo.There are a lot of world class NLHE players that butcher short stack play. Link to post Share on other sites
TheNumbersGame 0 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 I'm really curious (with the new tourneys and without the rebuy events) what the registrations will look like this year. More players at the ME or less? Thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites
Arsenic 0 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 hey Daniel, i'm just wondering how much ahead of time u have to register for WSOP events to play in them, and when registartion opens? Link to post Share on other sites
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