herly33 1 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 PokerStars Game #20286876674: 7 Card Stud Limit ($1/$2) - 2008/09/09 23:27:42 ETTable 'Tinette' 8-maxSeat 2: Come2mommy ($8.65 in chips) Seat 3: uvgddxz ($48.40 in chips) Seat 4: trafduol ($79.85 in chips) Seat 5: oledawg39 ($51.55 in chips) Seat 6: Goodoctor ($25.60 in chips) Seat 7: herly33 ($41.50 in chips) Seat 8: billvan ($97.10 in chips) Come2mommy: posts the ante $0.10uvgddxz: posts the ante $0.10trafduol: posts the ante $0.10oledawg39: posts the ante $0.10Goodoctor: posts the ante $0.10herly33: posts the ante $0.10billvan: posts the ante $0.10*** 3rd STREET ***Dealt to Come2mommy [Kd]Dealt to uvgddxz [8s]Dealt to trafduol [4c]Dealt to oledawg39 [7d]Dealt to Goodoctor [8d]Dealt to herly33 [As Ad Th]Dealt to billvan [9c]trafduol: brings in for $0.50oledawg39: folds Goodoctor: folds herly33: raises $0.50 to $1billvan: folds Come2mommy: raises $1 to $2uvgddxz: folds trafduol: folds herly33: raises $1 to $3Come2mommy: calls $1*** 4th STREET ***Dealt to Come2mommy [Kd] [3d]Dealt to herly33 [As Ad Th] [Qh]Come2mommy: checks herly33: bets $1Come2mommy: calls $1*** 5th STREET ***Dealt to Come2mommy [Kd 3d] [8h]Dealt to herly33 [As Ad Th Qh] [Ah]herly33: bets $2Come2mommy: calls $2*** 6th STREET ***Dealt to Come2mommy [Kd 3d 8h] [Qd]Dealt to herly33 [As Ad Th Qh Ah] [Ac]herly33: bets $2Come2mommy: calls $2*** RIVER ***Dealt to herly33 [As Ad Th Qh Ah Ac] [2s]herly33: bets $2Come2mommy: folds Uncalled bet ($2) returned to herly33herly33 collected $16.45 from potherly33: doesn't show hand *** SUMMARY ***Total pot $17.20 | Rake $0.75 Seat 2: Come2mommy folded on the RiverSeat 3: uvgddxz folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)Seat 4: trafduol folded on the 3rd StreetSeat 5: oledawg39 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)Seat 6: Goodoctor folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)Seat 7: herly33 collected ($16.45)Seat 8: billvan folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)he left himself .55 puts $8 into potdid he know i had quads Link to post Share on other sites
grocery_mony 8 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 he missed his pair draw Link to post Share on other sites
FARGOpokerND 22 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 or else maybe he had Kx hidden with a diamond and didn't hit 2 pair or flush and couldn't beat your board???Didn't think that one through, did ya Link to post Share on other sites
grocery_mony 8 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 or else maybe he had Kx hidden with a diamond and didn't hit 2 pair or flush and couldn't beat your board???Didn't think that one through, did yakk beats his visible board Link to post Share on other sites
FARGOpokerND 22 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 kk beats his visible boardDealt to Come2mommy [Kx xx] [Kd 3d 8h] [Qd]Dealt to herly33 [As Ad Th Qh Ah] [Ac] Hidden in bold. AA showing. Last i checked....a hidden K doesn't beat AA Link to post Share on other sites
whatgreatis 0 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 More like WTF thread? Link to post Share on other sites
grocery_mony 8 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Dealt to Come2mommy [Kx xx] [Kd 3d 8h] [Qd]Dealt to herly33 [As Ad Th Qh Ah] [Ac] Hidden in bold. AA showing. Last i checked....a hidden K doesn't beat AAyea i missed the 2. carry on Link to post Share on other sites
herly33 1 Posted September 10, 2008 Author Share Posted September 10, 2008 My point everyone missing is he started the hand with $8.65 and by the time the 7th street comes around he only has .55 left to put into the pot. He folds his last .55 after putting in his other $8. That is a clear definition of being pot committed. Link to post Share on other sites
FARGOpokerND 22 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 My point everyone missing is he started the hand with $8.65 and by the time the 7th street comes around he only has .55 left to put into the pot. He folds his last .55 after putting in his other $8. That is a clear definition of being pot committed.You are missing the point. If he can not beat what you show, he should 100% fold. You are pot committed in that case if you have about a 2% chance of winning. After 7 cards came out, if he has ZERO percent chance of winning...why throw away 55 cents?Your logic makes no sense whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites
herly33 1 Posted September 10, 2008 Author Share Posted September 10, 2008 So u don't think he is pot committed? Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 I just found it weird when he was pot committed.to me .55 cents isnt shitlol. someone else please handle this one, this is just too much for me. Link to post Share on other sites
FARGOpokerND 22 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Oh man. OK hypothetical situation. You have a million dollars in front of you, a guy has 999,995. On the river of a AAAK4 board, you bet 999,990. He goes all in for $5 more, then flips over A7 before you call. Now you have KT, but do you call the last $5 knowing you are beat and that is that? What happens if you are hungry...would you waste the $5 and skip out on the dollar value menu at McDonalds?Pot committed is when you have to call X amount of money in relation to the pot size, when you have Y amount percent chance to win, with Y/100>(X/Z) where Z = pot size.Simply....If the percentage is bigger than the money to call, you call.I hope I just confused you more (which doesn't seem hard) Link to post Share on other sites
whatgreatis 0 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 I'm a dickYes, you are. Link to post Share on other sites
DWMREP 0 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 The old stud adage is 'if you can't beat your opponents board, GET OUT!'If he can't beat your open Aces, why would he give you .55? To see if your hand was even better than his dead hand? Link to post Share on other sites
whatgreatis 0 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 This is not a productive thread! Link to post Share on other sites
whatgreatis 0 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 I'd also like to say that Fargopoker probably made the most productive post in this thread with his explanation of pot odds and how they don't apply when no more cards come and you can see that your opponent has you beat. Please apply accordingly Herly. Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 God my head hurts. There should be an Easy Button in this forum to insta ban people that just don't get it. I love the pot committed part when you call knowing you can't beat his board. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 God my head hurts. There should be an Easy Button in this forum to insta ban people that just don't get it. I love the pot committed part when you call knowing you can't beat his board.Then it is an ez raise, he wouldn' think you would raise if you couldn't beat his board Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Then it is an ez raise, he wouldn' think you would raise if you couldn't beat his board EASY BAN!!! He can't raise. Link to post Share on other sites
GetSprung 0 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Hooray! Stud discussion! Link to post Share on other sites
wakiki 0 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 It's what we call a "bluff call." People call all-in with the nut low in Hold 'Em all the time, so why not do a similar thing in Stud? Obviously the OP was hoping for a bluff call.This thread got several laughs out of me. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Sparco 2 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 And obviously, the $2 bet scared him off. If he only has $0.55 left, why overbet? Just bet $0.55, or, even more clever, $0.54, so he won't see he's all in. Link to post Share on other sites
Biff Goods 0 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 hey guys i was playing 5 card stud the other day and this hand came up and i felt like this is a good place to discuss it.Me (Ad) 9d 8d Qd Villain (x) K K 10 I started the hand with 5 million dollars and had put 4 of the five in on each street. Villain drew a 10 on 5th street to make (x) K K 10 10 I drew an Ac for (Ad) 9d 8d Qd AcHe bet my last million.....Should I call cause of being pot committed or leave myself with the old measly 1 mil when the pot has 9 million in it? Link to post Share on other sites
psujohn 0 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 And obviously, the $2 bet scared him off. If he only has $0.55 left, why overbet? Just bet $0.55, or, even more clever, $0.54, so he won't see he's all in. PokerStars Game #20286876674: 7 Card Stud Limit ($1/$2) - 2008/09/09 23:27:42 ET Link to post Share on other sites
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