Half Raise All In - What's The Next Action?

[Socrates 0]

Scenario: NL TournamentSB posts 100BB posts 200Seat 3 all in for 300What are the options for seat 4?

[savagerebel 0]

Scenario: NL TournamentSB posts 100BB posts 200Seat 3 all in for 300What are the options for seat 4?

Call with no option to reraise. I am pretty sure.

[Gallo 1]

Scenario: NL TournamentSB posts 100BB posts 200Seat 3 all in for 300What are the options for seat 4?

A. FoldB. CallC. Raise

[HighwayStar 8]

This is a weird thing I've never entirely understood, but I'm fairly sure seat 4 can do wtf he wants.

A. FoldB. CallC. Raise

lololol

[Gaffer 0]

time out and go for a smoke

[Poker Addict 0]

if the amount of an all-in bet is less than the minimum bet, or if the amount of an all-in raise is less than the full amount of the previous raise, it does not constitute a "real" raise, and therefore does not reopen the betting action.Anyone at this table can do anything they want. If this guy was say in UTG+1 and UTG had limped ahead of him for 200, this player goes all in for 300, then it is called/folded back around to the original limper with no one raising. His only two options are call or fold as the action has not been reopened so he can not raise. But anyone else could raise this bet and then the action is back open when it gets back to the UTG guy.EDIT: The rule applies if they are girls as well as guys.

[Naked_Cowboy 0]

Call with no option to reraise. I am pretty sure.

... no.seat 4 may call 300, fold, or raise from 400-all in.

[savagerebel 0]

... no.seat 4 may call 300, fold, or raise from 400-all in.

I was wrong. The internet just does it for me anyway.

[Merby 3]

Call with no option to reraise. I am pretty sure.

LOL...?

A. FoldB. CallC. Raise

QFT. Seat 4 still has not acted, so he can do whatever he wants. If, on the other hand he had already chosen to call the BB, then he cannot raise. For example:SB posts 100BB posts 200Seat 3 calls 200Seat 4 moves all in for 300When the action gets back to seat 3, if no one else puts in a full raise, he cannot raise. He can *only* call the extra 100 (the 300 all in does not count as a full raise, hence does not reopen the betting)... or fold, if he is scared .

[Poker Addict 0]

LOL...?QFT. Seat 4 still has not acted, so he can do whatever he wants. If, on the other hand he had already chosen to call the BB, then he cannot raise. For example:SB posts 100BB posts 200Seat 3 calls 200Seat 4 moves all in for 300When the action gets back to seat 3, if no one else puts in a full raise, he can *only* call the extra 100 (the 300 all in does not count as a full raise, hence does not reopen the betting).

Beat ya

[ben4808 0]

Seat 4 should have the option to raise since he has not yet acted in the hand, right?EDIT: Merby beat me to it

[Poker Addict 0]

Seat 4 should have the option to raise since he has not yet acted in the hand, right?EDIT: Poker Addict already answered this and then Merby copied his post

FYP

[HighwayStar 8]

merby's post is better

[Poker Addict 0]

merby's post is better

I agree... but mine was first. He obv just took what I said and made it prettier.

[Gallo 1]

Anyone feel like playing those Super Turbos on FTP? You start with 300 chips with 3min levels. I think the lowest buy-in is $3.

[Gallo 1]

I agree... but mine was first. He obv just took what I said and made it prettier.

I beat you all, mine was simple and to the point.

[yahaw 0]

Scenario: NL TournamentSB posts 100BB posts 200Seat 3 all in for 300What are the options for seat 4?

The answer is FOLD,no one shoves all in unless they have aces ....duh!

[Merby 3]

I <3 shaun deeb

I accidentally quoted this from the challenge thread. I refuse to delete it.

Beat ya

Damn! You're too quick! Don't you know that women like it when you take your time to do it properly?

merby's post is better

<3 *feels the love*

The answer is FOLD,no one shoves all in unless they have aces ....duh!

Winnar! Why didn't I see this?

[TheRegime 0]

if the amount of an all-in bet is less than the minimum bet, or if the amount of an all-in raise is less than the full amount of the previous raise, it does not constitute a "real" raise, and therefore does not reopen the betting action.Anyone at this table can do anything they want. If this guy was say in UTG+1 and UTG had limped ahead of him for 200, this player goes all in for 300, then it is called/folded back around to the original limper with no one raising. His only two options are call or fold as the action has not been reopened so he can not raise. But anyone else could raise this bet and then the action is back open when it gets back to the UTG guy.EDIT: The rule applies if they are girls as well as guys.

Just to clarify you may want to check the rules of where you play be it casino or online. Because at the casino I played at they had the half bet rule. Which means a half the min bet/raise is considered a full bet and re opens the action.But yes if the full bet rule is on then the limper can only call or fold.Player 4 can do whatever he wants in either situation.

[Poker Addict 0]

Just to clarify you may want to check the rules of where you play be it casino or online. Because at the casino I played at they had the half bet rule. Which means a half the min bet/raise is considered a full bet and re opens the action.But yes if the full bet rule is on then the limper can only call or fold.Player 4 can do whatever he wants in either situation.

Were you playing limit? That sounds about right for LHE.

[Suited_Up 2]

Hey Socrates, did you just make the thread to see how many dumbasses are around? lol.

[Muckuup 0]

LOL...?QFT. Seat 4 still has not acted, so he can do whatever he wants. If, on the other hand he had already chosen to call the BB, then he cannot raise. For example:SB posts 100BB posts 200Seat 3 calls 200Seat 4 moves all in for 300When the action gets back to seat 3, if no one else puts in a full raise, he cannot raise. He can *only* call the extra 100 (the 300 all in does not count as a full raise, hence does not reopen the betting)... or fold, if he is scared .

This is how it works online I'm pretty sure, but if you guys are ever playing live the actual rule whether or not the place your playing enforces it is, an all in bet that is less than a full raise opens action to those who have already acted if its atleast half of the last bet, which in this case if you were live it'd be open to the limper UTG with aces obviously.

[riddeld 0]

This is how it works online I'm pretty sure, but if you guys are ever playing live the actual rule whether or not the place your playing enforces it is, an all in bet that is less than a full raise opens action to those who have already acted if its atleast half of the last bet, which in this case if you were live it'd be open to the limper UTG with aces obviously.

In every live casino I have played in, this is correct, somewhat.The rule is that a raise that is equal to or more than the previous raise, reopens action. For example1 - Bet 2002 - Raise 4003 - All in 6001 - Call 6002 - This player is open to a raise here, since he raised from 200-400, and was re-raised by the same amount, to 600. However in the situation described in this thread, it is a small blind of 100, big blind of 200, and all in raise to 300. A limper does not have action in this situation because the small blind to big blind does not count as a raise. The first raise must be double to re-open action thus the all-in would need to be 400, being the first raise, to open action to limpers.

[Merby 3]

This is how it works online I'm pretty sure, but if you guys are ever playing live the actual rule whether or not the place your playing enforces it is, an all in bet that is less than a full raise opens action to those who have already acted if its atleast half of the last bet, which in this case if you were live it'd be open to the limper UTG with aces obviously.

That is for limit games. We were talking about no limit games.

[Poker Addict 0]

Were you playing limit? That sounds about right for LHE.

That is for limit games. We were talking about no limit games.

Poker Addict faster than Merby :)PWNT!!!!!