Yoda 1 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Sigh. This is what FCP has become. You're such a douche! Why don't you go put on some stuff for your sensitive skin, you damn cry bady!Two people that performed disappearing acts on the same page! Start visiting IRC again fools! Link to post Share on other sites
troyomac 0 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 (Okay, I've been drafting this message for about half-an-hour now, trying to put it perfectly. I've now realised that such is not possible, so I'm just going to post it as it is)Sorry to interrupt, but can I just say...From what I've gathered, Pros, and the players that would be disappointed not to go deep in the tournament favour a higher structure, agreeing with Hub's OP.The "weaker" (for lack of a better term) players, who probably got in through a satellite, or at some other discount, will take $238 as they're probably profiting a lot more than $23 overall.Of course, there are exceptions to this, and Grinder's point about the long run is extremely important, as recognised.I think (though acknowledge I could be wrong) that pretty much summarises the debate, but obviously there are other factors from both sides that have been rightfully put forward from either side, and my summary is very vague.A lot more importantly, though, is that fact that we are fortunate enough to be able to voice our opinion on a daily basis, and on a massive geographical scale. Let's admit that we're privileged for that, but let us also show each other the respect we deserve, no matter what has been said in the past. We're all civilised people here.Now, staying out of it, can we just remember that FCP is supposed to be a friendly place, and from what I've seen, it's definitely doing a good job at maintaining that:FIVEREASONSTOLOVEFCPPersonally, I FCP, and so should you Good links lol. Link to post Share on other sites
HubDub04 0 Posted July 13, 2008 Author Share Posted July 13, 2008 okay dude, let me break it down for you. 1) the payout structure sucks. 2) stars knows that and did it anyway 3) this is because it makes business sense for them 4) they have cared less and less about individual players for a while now 5) if you cant understand why they do it then this isnt even worth me typing 6) in general IMO you act like a douche, especially in this thread 7) i cant type anymore b/c im trying to multitable 8) you said give examples of you acting like a douche/being arrogant and this thread is a great example, whether you agree or notOh my god.Some people just don't get it.Nevermind. Focusing on the 2nd Chance from here on out and not this garbage. Link to post Share on other sites
nutzbuster 7 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Solution is easy.switching monies to UB as we speak... Link to post Share on other sites
Painter567 0 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 (Okay, I've been drafting this message for about half-an-hour now, trying to put it perfectly. I've now realised that such is not possible, so I'm just going to post it as it is)Sorry to interrupt, but can I just say...From what I've gathered, Pros, and the players that would be disappointed not to go deep in the tournament favour a higher structure, agreeing with Hub's OP.The "weaker" (for lack of a better term) players, who probably got in through a satellite, or at some other discount, will take $238 as they're probably profiting a lot more than $23 overall.Of course, there are exceptions to this, and Grinder's point about the long run is extremely important, as recognised.I think (though acknowledge I could be wrong) that pretty much summarises the debate, but obviously there are other factors from both sides that have been rightfully put forward from either side, and my summary is very vague.A lot more importantly, though, is that fact that we are fortunate enough to be able to voice our opinion on a daily basis, and on a massive geographical scale. Let's admit that we're privileged for that, but let us also show each other the respect we deserve, no matter what has been said in the past. We're all civilised people here.Now, staying out of it, can we just remember that FCP is supposed to be a friendly place, and from what I've seen, it's definitely doing a good job at maintaining that:FIVEREASONSTOLOVEFCPPersonally, I FCP, and so should you One of these links better be my Porn Thread! Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 I don't know if I can add anything except that this thread is extremely entertaining.My favorite part is all the build up to whether or not GrinderMJ would weigh in, and then the excitement surrounding his eventual response. Such superstardom. Link to post Share on other sites
king1305 0 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Oh my god.Some people just don't get it.Nevermind. Focusing on the 2nd Chance from here on out and not this garbage. Bold: THIS IS THE STATEMENT WITH THE MOST SUBSTANCE YOU'VE SAID YETItalics: So you didn't win the Mill? Link to post Share on other sites
yourboygsarida 0 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 If I know i'm right, and I say I know i'm right, and it turns out that I actually WAS right, then how was I coming off as arrogant?But yes, I appreciate the fact that you are one of the few sane people on this site that understands what happened in this thread and that I wasn't being a jerk.ctionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share Thisar·ro·gant Audio Help /ˈærəgənt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ar-uh-guhnt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation–adjective1. making claims or pretensions to superior importance or rights; overbearingly assuming; insolently proud: an arrogant public official.2. characterized by or proceeding from arrogance: arrogant claims.right Audio Help /raɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[rahyt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation adjective, -er, -est, noun, adverb, verb–adjective1. in accordance with what is good, proper, or just: right conduct.2. in conformity with fact, reason, truth, or some standard or principle; correct: the right solution; the right answer.3. correct in judgment, opinion, or action.NOTE THAT THE DEFINITIONS ARE IN FACT noootttttt the same. maybe instead of the second chance you should go for grammar or basic reading comprehension Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 If I know i'm right, and I say I know i'm right, and it turns out that I actually WAS right, then how was I coming off as arrogant?But yes, I appreciate the fact that you are one of the few sane people on this site that understands what happened in this thread and that I wasn't being a jerk.1) No one ever said you were wrong. Not one person, in this thread, thought so. Everyone knows you were right in the OP. I have yet to see evidence of one person saying it was incorrect. 0No one is even attempting to argue that, in a vacuum, they payout structure is bad.It would be great if you stopped saying you were right since that is not the issue in question.Do you see what I am saying here? Not. One. Person. Disagreed. With. You.2) Now that we are hopefully clear on point one, would you like me to quote all your posts in this thread that you were acting like a douche? I think you can only post 10 at a time so it may be two posts, let me know if you would like to see this. Link to post Share on other sites
HubDub04 0 Posted July 13, 2008 Author Share Posted July 13, 2008 Bold: THIS IS THE STATEMENT WITH THE MOST SUBSTANCE YOU'VE SAID YETItalics: So you didn't win the Mill?Don't make me quote my original response to your asinine "i won't win anyways" comment. Link to post Share on other sites
Scriptpro727 0 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 good point.I officially un quit Winner.....it's over Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Let's all assume that the flatter payout structure is worse for the "pro" online tournament players. That means that it's better for the non-pro players since the tournament is a zero sum game minus the rake. Should a site create payout structures that benefit the "pros" or should they design them to benefit the average player ?Obviously there is some point where either a too steep or too flat structure becomes awful but are these structures in that range.Basically the people arguing that they hate the structure think that a steeper one would benefit themselves and that's a natural reaction.A comment has been made that structures like these are hurting the ROI of the pros. There obviously has to be a balance but if a site is doing their job for everybody they should in many cases be trying to take as much advantage from the pros as is reasonable. Link to post Share on other sites
yourboygsarida 0 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Bold: THIS IS THE STATEMENT WITH THE MOST SUBSTANCE YOU'VE SAID YETItalics: So you didn't win the Mill? wait, so this means you were right, therefore not a douche in this thread? leaving hubdub as the only dbag here?? man. love when logic works its own problems out Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 One of these links better be my Porn Thread!I think if I have a top 5 guys I would want to have sex with if I were gay it would go like this:1) Looshle2) Acid_Knight3) Specbrad4) Rdog5) Patrick Antonius Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 This thread is begging for a cat summary like nothing I've ever seen. PAGING QYIQYAQUYI! Link to post Share on other sites
Painter567 0 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 I think if I have a top 5 guys I would want to have sex with if I were gay it would go like this:1) Looshle2) Acid_Knight3) Specbrad4) Rdog5) Patrick Antonius/thread! Link to post Share on other sites
troyomac 0 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 I think if I have a top 5 guys I would want to have sex with if I were gay it would go like this:1) Looshle2) Acid_Knight3) Specbrad4) Rdog5,6 same time) Patrick Antonius, troyomacFYP, Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Let's all assume that the flatter payout structure is worse for the "pro" online tournament players. That means that it's better for the non-pro players since the tournament is a zero sum game minus the rake. Should a site create payout structures that benefit the "pros" or should they design them to benefit the average player ?Obviously there is some point where either a too steep or too flat structure becomes awful but are these structures in that range.Basically the people arguing that they hate the structure think that a steeper one would benefit themselves and that's a natural reaction.A comment has been made that structures like these are hurting the ROI of the pros. There obviously has to be a balance but if a site is doing their job for everybody they should in many cases be trying to take as much advantage from the pros as is reasonable.Yes.It's one thing to create a structure that can benefit the site and the aveage players.It's another for a site to go out of its way to create a structure that hurts the EV of the customers consistently paying the most rake. Link to post Share on other sites
Gaffer 0 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 I think if I have a top 5 guys I would want to have sex with if I were gay it would go like this:1) Looshle2) Acid_Knight3) Specbrad4) Rdog5) Patrick Antonius Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 FYP, LOOOOL, actually yea you should have been in there, you or gilbertology or tremomey, I always get the three of you confused. Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 I think if I have a top 5 guys I would want to have sex with if I were gay it would go like this:1) Looshle2) Acid_Knight3) Specbrad4) Rdog5) Patrick AntoniusLMAAAAAAAAAAO. Ummmmm.....any chance I could ship you some money to move me ahead of Specbrad? He's the porn guy and well, I don't want to catch anything. Link to post Share on other sites
grocery_mony 8 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 With all of the I <3 FCP love in threads this week a thread like this was inevitable. Link to post Share on other sites
Ouch-8s 4 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 wouldn't sensitive skin cream be skin cream that gets all upset if you don't buy it because it's too greasy? There obviously has to be a balance but if a site is doing their job for everybody they should in many cases be trying to take as much advantage from the pros as is reasonable.but... but..... but...... we all rock at poker, stick up for us, Bob! Link to post Share on other sites
king1305 0 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Don't make me quote my original response to your asinine "i won't win anyways" comment.Since it seems so hard for you, I'm going to offer you something. I'm currently taking an Introduction to Logic class, and am willing to ship the book to you when I'm done with the class free of charge. If you want it, let me know. I'll gladly assume all costs for shipping and handling also.The cost of the book wasn't quite the fee for a Sunday Major, but enough for you for a 109. Maybe, after you've read the book you can sell it back to a bookstore and get enough for a 55. Link to post Share on other sites
Painter567 0 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 LMAAAAAAAAAAO. Ummmmm.....any chance I could ship you some money to move me ahead of Specbrad? He's the porn guy and well, I don't want to catch anything.DUDE!Cmon....I'm clean!I earned that spot!Just cause you use your Hoodeez as batch rags.................. Link to post Share on other sites
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