No_Neck 0 Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Absolute PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.50/$16 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $198.77UTG+1: $23.30Hero: $97.99Button: $113.55SB: $295.70BB: $99Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with :D UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, UTG calls.Flop: ($9.5, 2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $6, UTG calls.Turn: ($21.5, 2 players)UTG bets $4, Hero raises to $25, UTG calls.River: ($71.5, 2 players)UTG bets $16, Hero ???Villian is like 70/0/.5obv fold isn't an option, shovel or fold Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted March 25, 2008 Author Share Posted March 25, 2008 Absolute PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.50/$16 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $198.77UTG+1: $23.30Hero: $97.99Button: $113.55SB: $295.70BB: $99Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with :D UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, UTG calls.Flop: ($9.5, 2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $6, UTG calls.Turn: ($21.5, 2 players)UTG bets $4, Hero raises to $25, UTG calls.River: ($71.5, 2 players)UTG bets $16, Hero ???Villian is like 70/0/.5obv fold isn't an option, shovel or fold10 hands before this I got it all in with AK against the villian's straight on a K high board (he was only $50 deep in a re raised pot) But I have no idea if he is paying attention to the action. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Just call. Link to post Share on other sites
ThomasMoyes 0 Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 I'd call, certainly not raise, if he has JJ beat hes calling, hard to think he'd call a shove with less than JJ. Ive put him on KJ KQ busted flush draw type of hand but would prob pay it off anyway as there is so much in there. what did he have in the end? Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 River: ($71.5, 2 players)UTG bets $16, Hero ???Villian is like 70/0/.5obv fold isn't an option, shovel or foldLooks like a "raise me please bet." Fool could be doing it with 88 or something. I usually just call w/o a read. Link to post Share on other sites
AndyZ28 0 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Call. I think that's unanimous. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 call here as welli bet 8 on the flop Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteSpade 0 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I'd call, certainly not raise, if he has JJ beat hes calling, hard to think he'd call a shove with less than JJ. Ive put him on KJ KQ busted flush draw type of hand but would prob pay it off anyway as there is so much in there. what did he have in the end?Agreed. Call for the showdown, there's no point in raising if he wouldn't lay down a better hand anyway. These donkeys can have any kind of two pair hand. If he was on some kind of draw you're not getting a call and will just take it. Link to post Share on other sites
ah2388 0 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 never a raise...i dont even think a fold is that bad, I feel like the only reason were calling is because he has a busted flush draw some of the time...anyone else think this could very easily be a set/2pr? Link to post Share on other sites
Naismith 0 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I would shove this almost every time with this line, but ISSA6M. Link to post Share on other sites
Dictius 0 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I would shove this almost every time with this line, but ISSA6M.Why? Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I call here like 99.999999999999199999% of the time."Hey, what's with that .999999999999199999!?"That little guy? I wouldn't worry about that little guy. Link to post Share on other sites
Naismith 0 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Why?Two qualifiers:1) I haven't spoken to Nate.2) I'm an idiot.That out of the way, I would bet anyone on here 7 dollars that the villain had a pair of tens at best and, upon further review, was bad enough to stack off (or actually did stack off) in this spot with worse than JJ. Link to post Share on other sites
Tank4Daze 0 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Two qualifiers:1) I haven't spoken to Nate.2) I'm an idiot.That out of the way, I would bet anyone on here 7 dollars that the villain had a pair of tens at best and, upon further review, was bad enough to stack off (or actually did stack off) in this spot with worse than JJ.i agree that based on villians line,with no read and his PT stats he could have a hand like 10 10 here,trying to showdown somewhat cheap.but it could just as easily be a k 10 as played,so as most of the above posters stated, a shovel here is a horrible idea Link to post Share on other sites
fatman 1 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Easy call Link to post Share on other sites
Webslinger516 0 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 never a raise...i dont even think a fold is that bad, I feel like the only reason were calling is because he has a busted flush draw some of the time...anyone else think this could very easily be a set/2pr?This COULD be set/2pr, but by his stats, he's a donk and it's such a small bet in relation to the pot that folding is never an option in this exact spot. Raising is bad because the only thing that calls you is something that beats JJ.Call. If he spiked on you with K10, then so be it. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 i dont even think a fold is that bad, I feel like the only reason were calling is because he has a busted flush draw some of the time...anyone else think this could very easily be a set/2pr?I don't think this is ever 2 pair or a set.I think folding would be such a massively large mistake considering the pot odds that we're getting.The question in the OP is whether to call or raise for value. I think there's very little value in raising here since we are beaten some percent of the time and he's gonna fold most worse hands some percent of the time. I just call and take the showdown. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 Ya so he showed QTs for the one stupid hand that I could have gotten value fromthanks guys Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Ya so he showed QTs for the one stupid hand that I could have gotten value fromthanks guysyour call isn't bad. the river card just kinda sucked. i don't think i would ever raise there. Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 So...are we scared of poop donk bets?yes is fine... i just wanna know why... is it cuz he's so passive that you think he'll poop on the nuts? Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 So...are we scared of poop donk bets?yes is fine... i just wanna know why... is it cuz he's so passive that you think he'll poop on the nuts?i don't understand this Link to post Share on other sites
Naismith 0 Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Ya so he showed QTs for the one stupid hand that I could have gotten value fromthanks guysYou can't kick yourself over this since no one in this thread would've shoved, either.I would shove this almost every time with this line, but ISSA6M. I would bet anyone on here 7 dollars that the villain had a pair of tens at best and, upon further review, was bad enough to stack off (or actually did stack off) in this spot with worse than JJ.Whoops. I stand corrected. Link to post Share on other sites
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