strategy's_touch 0 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 yeah, the strides thing was the one thing I suspected might have happened. Link to post Share on other sites
Speed Limit 0 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 3+ full flight strides if you're going by Zach (I kinda always thought it was 4+, go figure) where you make an extra effort to go after the man and not the puck. The knee on knee thing isn't even where it bugs me, that was coincidental as far as I can figure. It should never have happened, but that's just the player Cooke is, he makes that play 100 times out of 100, but doesn't mean that it's legal every time. NHL GMs and big honchos are worried about concussions and head injuries etc. a lot of back and lower body injuries can be prevented if you make penalties for charging more severe, with the first step to making it a double minor. Link to post Share on other sites
fryer98 30 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 3+ full flight strides if you're going by Zach (I kinda always thought it was 4+, go figure) where you make an extra effort to go after the man and not the puck. The knee on knee thing isn't even where it bugs me, that was coincidental as far as I can figure. It should never have happened, but that's just the player Cooke is, he makes that play 100 times out of 100, but doesn't mean that it's legal every time. NHL GMs and big honchos are worried about concussions and head injuries etc. a lot of back and lower body injuries can be prevented if you make penalties for charging more severe, with the first step to making it a double minor.So, I'm missing how it was a charge? Link to post Share on other sites
Speed Limit 0 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 3+ full flight strides if you're going by Zach (I kinda always thought it was 4+, go figure) where you make an extra effort to go after the man and not the puck. The knee on knee thing isn't even where it bugs me, that was coincidental as far as I can figure. It should never have happened, but that's just the player Cooke is, he makes that play 100 times out of 100, but doesn't mean that it's legal every time. NHL GMs and big honchos are worried about concussions and head injuries etc. a lot of back and lower body injuries can be prevented if you make penalties for charging more severe, with the first step to making it a double minor. So, I'm missing how it was a charge? Link to post Share on other sites
fryer98 30 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 He wasn't taking any strides when he hit him, he was gliding in the entire replay, so I guess I'm still missing something.Extra effort? I've never heard that before. Are you refering to a rule here?I can't say agree with that even being close to a charge. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 The strides thing is retarded. Where do you draw the line? A guy needs to stride to skate. He's not gonna just float around. He needs to pick up speed somehow. Cooke is CLEARLY coasting for a second or two before the hit. What makes something a charge? 100% of the hits in the NHL come after a player takes several 'strides'. How exactly does one differentiate a charge? Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 The strides thing is retarded. Where do you draw the line? A guy needs to stride to skate. He's not gonna just float around. He needs to pick up speed somehow. Cooke is CLEARLY coasting for a second or two before the hit. What makes something a charge? 100% of the hits in the NHL come after a player takes several 'strides'. How exactly does one differentiate a charge?Rule 47 CHARGINGCharging shall mean the actions of a player who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner. A "Charge" may be the result of a check into the boards, into the goal frame or in open ice. The way it's taught to NHL referees is that, if a player identifies his target then continues to stride to maintain or pickup momentum, then it's charging. It has nothing to do with gliding. So, for example, a forechecking forward comes in on a defenseman going back on the puck, once the defender picks up the puck (you can only hit a player with the puck, remember), and establishes a direction, and the forechecker takes a vector to intercept with a hit, he must stop skating. I think with this hit, Cooke clearly identifies, then tries to gain momentum. Plus, I hate the little bastard. And I know him. Link to post Share on other sites
fryer98 30 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Rule 47 CHARGINGCharging shall mean the actions of a player who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner. A "Charge" may be the result of a check into the boards, into the goal frame or in open ice. The way it's taught to NHL referees is that, if a player identifies his target then continues to stride to maintain or pickup momentum, then it's charging. It has nothing to do with gliding. So, for example, a forechecking forward comes in on a defenseman going back on the puck, once the defender picks up the puck (you can only hit a player with the puck, remember), and establishes a direction, and the forechecker takes a vector to intercept with a hit, he must stop skating. I think with this hit, Cooke clearly identifies, then tries to gain momentum. Plus, I hate the little bastard. And I know him.I'm not seeing this part of it.But, as always, thanks for the information. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Rule 47 CHARGINGCharging shall mean the actions of a player who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner. A "Charge" may be the result of a check into the boards, into the goal frame or in open ice. The way it's taught to NHL referees is that, if a player identifies his target then continues to stride to maintain or pickup momentum, then it's charging. It has nothing to do with gliding. So, for example, a forechecking forward comes in on a defenseman going back on the puck, once the defender picks up the puck (you can only hit a player with the puck, remember), and establishes a direction, and the forechecker takes a vector to intercept with a hit, he must stop skating. I think with this hit, Cooke clearly identifies, then tries to gain momentum. Plus, I hate the little bastard. And I know him.Hmm. Thanks.I think they miss a billion charging calls then. (cough Ovechkin cough)I could go either way on this being charging then, still meh on it, though. Link to post Share on other sites
dEv~ 19 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 It may be worthwhile to remind that charging wasn't called on the play, it was called tripping.Anyway last I saw Bogo skated today and is probable for Friday nights game. Link to post Share on other sites
strategy's_touch 0 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 It may be worthwhile to remind that charging wasn't called on the play, it was called tripping.Anyway last I saw Bogo skated today and is probable for Friday nights game.good! the NHL doesn't need any more hobbled young stud dmen. Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 good! the NHL doesn't need any more hobbled young stud dmen. Does this sound like gay bondage? Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted March 21, 2009 Author Share Posted March 21, 2009 back in action.19:25, Colin Stuart 4 (Zach Bogosian, Joey Crabb) Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted March 25, 2009 Author Share Posted March 25, 2009 Atlanta 8:13, Zach Bogosian 6 (Colby Armstrong) Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 8:36, Zach Bogosian 7 (Ilya Kovalchuk, Bryan Little)#7 and First Star...Look out Mike Green..In a couple of years he will make you look like Todd Gill Link to post Share on other sites
pezeveng 207 Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 I like the nickname Zee Bo over Bogo. I will be starting the Zee Bo movement Serge use Zee Bo from now on. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted April 7, 2009 Author Share Posted April 7, 2009 I like the nickname Zee Bo over Bogo. I will be starting the Zee Bo movement Serge use Zee Bo from now on.i actually like Bogey..My uncle's nickname is bogey..Same last name obviously.At school I used to have a teacher call me Boggs...Thats when Wade Boggs was the best hitter in the game. Link to post Share on other sites
troyomac 0 Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 i actually like Bogey..My uncle's nickname is bogey..Same last name obviously.At school I used to have a teacher call me Boggs...Thats when Wade Boggs was the best hitter in the game.I think your uncle just sucks at golf Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 4, 2009 Author Share Posted October 4, 2009 And so it starts:Atlanta 9:01, Zach Bogosian 1 (Rich Peverley, Tobias Enstrom) Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Here's an imprresive fact: He, 19year old Zach, was just named Assisstant Captain of the Thrashers. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 Here's an imprresive fact: He, 19year old Zach, was just named Assisstant Captain of the Thrashers.They should nickname him Bobby...Because he will be winning Norris Trophies by the bunches. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 Atlanta 4:51, Zach Bogosian 2 (shorthanded) (Colby Armstrong, Rich Peverley)Only the good ones score short handed. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 Two more goals from Zach..Up to 4..Only one behind Phaneouf for NHL lead for Defenceman goals Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share Posted October 31, 2009 And there is number 5..In his 10th game he is tied for Dman lead in goals with Googoo and Phaneouf...The kid is capable of scoring 30 goals..Awesome. Link to post Share on other sites
pezeveng 207 Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 i guess I'll throw this here for Serge and Arp to watch. Link to post Share on other sites
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