krazy_jake 0 Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Which version of hold em is best for ring games if you go pro? which one is more profitable for a seasoned pro and what limit? :roll: Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Limit.You can start to make a meager living playing $10/$20 live, if you consider $40,000-$70,000 a year "living". Alternately, you can four table 3-6 online and probably make the same amount doing that. Link to post Share on other sites
TylerMayes 0 Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 No limit cash games are more profitable for a seasoned pro. No question. The problem is there can be higher fluxuation. So yes if you have a limited bankroll play limit. Also its rare to find a big NL game as its just pros vs pros meaning very little edge. You should master all forms of poker if attempting to be a pro..Cheers,Tyler Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 A friend of mine plays 15/30 no limit games maybe 3 times a week after work and brings in between 30-40 grand a year. He is only a cash game player as well, so i'd imagine you could definitely make in the 6 figures if you played everyday at a 15/30 no limit game and were decent at it. Link to post Share on other sites
tekn0wledg 0 Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Due to the swings of no-limit games and due to lack of selection in terms of big game no-limit is concerned, you will find most players playing limit games. However, in alot of the big games you will see a mixed game style, wherein there are some no-limit games thrown in with a 100k per round max betting limit. Link to post Share on other sites
foodbanker 0 Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Most no limit games in casino, the blinds are smaller than a 4-8 game but the betting will average more than a 1020. My winning percentage is at 90% per session. Much higher than a ring game. Most no-limit games, the betting is done pre-flop or after the flop. The question is for a seasoned pro. I don't think you need to be a seasoned pro to really find that no-limit is the better game for the long term success. Link to post Share on other sites
wildman wsop 0 Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Limit is the way to go no question, No-limit ya u can go on a run and get lucky, but limit is steady and solid, and your bankroll will continue to increase if u play well; and over a year, i guarentee u will make more money playin limitNo-limit is ok, when daniel talks about having a 100k cap on a 4000-8000 mixed game; about 25 times the BB; so, all the guys that talk about how they make big money playin no-limit, i dont buy-it unless u go on a lucky run, because there are just too many ways to get screwed playing no-limit, all-in rivers, AA vs KK for your stack, top-pair vs. a set etc.... stick with limit, most of the pros play big limit tables, notice i said most; well I feel the smart ones do, with daniel being one of them :wink: Sincerely, Poker Canuck Link to post Share on other sites
Jamestl 0 Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 How about tournaments? Anyone think limit is a better tournament than no limit? Link to post Share on other sites
elkang 0 Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 How about tournaments? Anyone think limit is a better tournament than no limit?No definitely NL tournaments are where the best money return is.Dan Harrington says the true value of a tournament entry (expected return on money) is about double for 7 card stud, Omaha, With no-limit is it 4-5x times that, or in the main event with lots of amateurs it is 7-8x.The idea here is that skill is more of a factor in a NL tourney - you have much more control over pot odds and a better player can pick up so much more info via betting.But, lastly, there is just so much more money out there in NL tourneys that the opportunities exist galore. I haven't even seen a Limit tourney in NYC for the last few months. Meanwhile, there are at least four or five NL ones every day around town. Link to post Share on other sites
PhilHellmuth 0 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 the worst is the liquidy farts in the middle of the day :bubblerocknroll: Link to post Share on other sites
Stylin_Fish 0 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Who would you take in a tug-o-war contest. No Limit or Limit? Link to post Share on other sites
wilheldp 0 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 the worst is the liquidy farts in the middle of the day :bubblerocknroll:Phil, why are you bringing up these [almost] year old posts? Especially this one, since we have one every week. Link to post Share on other sites
PhilHellmuth 0 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 the worst is the liquidy farts in the middle of the day :bubblerocknroll:Phil, why are you bringing up these [almost] year old posts? Especially this one, since we have one every week. Link to post Share on other sites
Swift_Psycho 1 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Who would you take in a tug-o-war contest. No Limit or Limit? Link to post Share on other sites
A_Bullets_A 0 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 I don't think you'll make much more money playing Limit instead of No-Limit or playing No-Limit instead of Limit. I think it just depends what game you're better at. Just play whatever you're better at and you'll make more money at that game. Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Most no limit games in casino, the blinds are smaller than a 4-8 game but the betting will average more than a 1020. My winning percentage is at 90% per session. Much higher than a ring game. I dont get it??I thought we were talking about ring games. no?. whats this whole 90% nonsense?is this like 90% of show downs?. hands played?. sessions played? tournaments??. i'm confused and tired Link to post Share on other sites
SilentSnow 1 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 "Dan Harrington says the true value of a tournament entry (expected return on money) is about double for 7 card stud, Omaha, With no-limit is it 4-5x times that, or in the main event with lots of amateurs it is 7-8x. "a couple more questions on this(maybe i should just buy his book if these are answered there)-what is the return for a limit tournament?-what sort of blind structure is he talking about?-is there a simple process to determine this, because it seems in a large tournament, variance is so big that you might have to play hundreds of tournaments to get your true ev?-does he have any guesses for smaller buy in tournaments, or just wsop level events?on a related subject, has anyone found a reliable(statistically significant) formula for determining ev in a multitable tournament? Link to post Share on other sites
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