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Just came to table, might be my 3rd hand so no reads.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Hero ($24.65)SB ($36.50)BB ($43.45)UTG ($32.40)MP ($31.60)CO ($25.80)Preflop: Hero is Button with Aheart.gif, Kheart.gif. 2 folds, CO raises to $0.5, Hero raises to $1.85, 2 folds, CO calls $1.35.Flop: ($4.05) 3spade.gif, Kdiamond.gif, 9spade.gif(2 players)CO checks, Hero bets $2.25, CO calls $2.25.Turn: ($8.55) 7club.gif(2 players)CO checks, Hero checks.River: ($8.55) 8club.gif(2 players)CO checks, Hero bets $4, CO raises to $21.7 (All-In), Hero....

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Naismith is an idiot. Don't let his opinion ruin the thread!
It's apparent you're uncomfortable with these stakes. Drop down a few levels until you're not afraid to put money in the pot and don't move up until you're ready.
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I bet $3 on the flop to shut out any flush draws. I bet another $6 on the turn.As played, I have no idea what to do on the river. As I would never play it this way I can't give you an opinion on how to end it, though this is probably a fold.Since you posted it, I'm guessing its something like J10s or a set of 8s

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Not to totally spam my way through this thread, but T thinks we're all idiots for wanting to bet the turn. He's positive checking the turn is right and, in turn, everyone who has posted in this thread should get Ghonorrea (his words, not mine).

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I didn't even want to post this stupid hand. Stupid Naismith.Get the clap!
Just another newb posting a hand, asking for advice and then disagreeing with everyone. If you just wanted to have us all say, "Wow, you played that like Doyle flipping Reese!", let us know in the subject line so we don't waste our time giving you advice.(translated: why don't you give your reasoning for your line?)
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I bet $3 on the flop to shut out any flush draws. I bet another $6 on the turn.As played, I have no idea what to do on the river. As I would never play it this way I can't give you an opinion on how to end it, though this is probably a fold.Since you posted it, I'm guessing its something like J10s or a set of 8s
It's heads up and I reraised pf. His range is not incredibly wide. I shouldn't be trying to price out flush draws that are not always there. I would love to get value from Kx hands that I'm beating though, which very often at this level will NOT call two bets in a row but will on bet/check/bet line becuse I look kind of desperate.While also taking into account my PF reraise, this flop is big for me a ton of the time. I'm reraising JJ+ AK. Checking the turn gets me more value from these middle hands I'm way ahead of, they keep the pot small against flopped sets, and against flushes (which I don't think is a big part of his range) I am not charging him on turn, but I am keeping pot small on river if he plans on bluffing the flush when it comes on river.
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You checked the turn to get action on the river now call. What are you scared of? A backdoor straight draw after a reraise preflop? Flush draw didn't get there and its pretty much just a naked king.

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Zach - is there a way to keep Naismith out of my threads? He's intentionally ruining strategic conversation because of apparent jealousy of me, namely me being a much better poker player than him.Other reasons for hate are that I'm young and in the prime of my life, my post count is higher (very important and rivals better poker player), and I like a real NFL franchise.Thanks for any help you have concerning this issue.

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It's apparent you're uncomfortable with these stakes. Drop down a few levels until you're not afraid to put money in the pot and don't move up until you're ready.
You checked the turn to get action on the river now call. What are you scared of? A backdoor straight draw after a reraise preflop? Flush draw didn't get there and its pretty much just a naked king.
Did you not read Naismith's post? I was trying to induce $4 action, not $21 action!Yikes.
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Did you not read Naismith's post? I was trying to induce $4 action, not $21 action!Yikes.
I can't think of a hand that bets the river that way that has you beat. Js10s would want a call and you think if he had a set he'd want a call too.But then again, I'm not very familiar with the playing styles at this level.
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I can't think of a hand that bets the river that way that has you beat. Js10s would want a call and you think if he had a set he'd want a call too.But then again, I'm not very familiar with the playing styles at this level.
I obv agree with you. I snap called on the river, I didn't think it was a tough decision and it looked like a very poor bluff, there isn't a single hand that he is representing.
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River C/R's are so often the nuts, calling this is painful..I agree with Naismith and the world that you should bet the turn, check the river..Gah, he line makes no sense, doesn't add up to anything..I mean your B/C/B line is relatively out of the ordinary at this level so he can't assume your going to bet the river if he has something like J10 or a set can he? I cry and call though probably

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I like betting the turn/checking rivers when we have very marginal hands and can fold better hands on the turn or charge draws. I don't like the idea of betting the turn and checking the river. If I bet the turn, got a call and got another river check, I'm betting again.I like the hand but would want to change the bet sizing a little to be $3 at the flop at $8 at the river.

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I think at these stakes it's possible your opponent has JJ or KQ, the turn check is horrible because it allows villian to make a play like this on the river regardless of his holdings, as played call on the river.

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I think at these stakes it's possible your opponent has JJ or KQ, the turn check is horrible because it allows villian to make a play like this on the river regardless of his holdings, as played call on the river.
It's horrible because he might donk shove with hands that are worse than mine? That sounds ideal, not horrible.
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