gruven 530 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 NOPEBecause if you have followed this space the last few years, we believe the Toronto media is the nastiest of all...No, YOU believe the toronto media is the nastiest of all. And even if you believe they ARE the nastiest, they dont TURN nasty at the trade deadline, they're the same all year. So why would that increase pressure? Sorry, serge, you're really reaching. What do you REALLY think the reason is for the losing streak? Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 No, YOU believe the toronto media is the nastiest of all. And even if you believe they ARE the nastiest, they dont TURN nasty at the trade deadline, they're the same all year. So why would that increase pressure? Sorry, serge, you're really reaching. What do you REALLY think the reason is for the losing streak?They are playing bad obviously..But every team goes through slumps..Its a combination of things..They were on a west coast road trip..A road trip they never do well in..They played a very hot Vancouver team.A New Jersey team that was super hot as well..A game in which they played really well and were unlucky in OT. They only played 30 minutes last night....Came out flat..Sure they havent played well...But neither have the Bruins..The Senators 2 weeks ago couldnt win a game, now look at them.If you think I am the ONLY person that things the media is nasty in Toronto, you are ignoring the facts... Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 They are playing bad obviously..But every team goes through slumps..Its a combination of things..They were on a west coast road trip..A road trip they never do well in..They played a very hot Vancouver team.A New Jersey team that was super hot as well..A game in which they played really well and were unlucky in OT. They only played 30 minutes last night....Came out flat..Sure they havent played well...But neither have the Bruins..The Senators 2 weeks ago couldnt win a game, now look at them.If you think I am the ONLY person that things the media is nasty in Toronto, you are ignoring the facts...And if you think that there aren't legitimate questions about the coaching, then you're ignoring the facts. But we can agree to disagree as to why the leafs currently stink!! Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 And if you think that there aren't legitimate questions about the coaching, then you're ignoring the facts. But we can agree to disagree as to why the leafs currently stink!! Sure thats cool..Ill leave you with this question:Coaches come and go, players come and go, gms come and go and even owners come and go. Do you know the one constant part of the Toronto market that hasnt changed since 1967? The answer to that question is going to be the main topic of my book. Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Sure thats cool..Ill leave you with this question:Coaches come and go, players come and go, gms come and go and even owners come and go. Do you know the one constant part of the Toronto market that hasnt changed since 1967? The answer to that question is going to be the main topic of my book.Losing, obv... Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,321 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Sure thats cool..Ill leave you with this question:Coaches come and go, players come and go, gms come and go and even owners come and go. Do you know the one constant part of the Toronto market that hasnt changed since 1967? The answer to that question is going to be the main topic of my book.Insane fans ? Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 Insane fans ?The answer is the media.I have been writing some in my spare time..Its going to be a fascinating book. Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 The answer is the media.I have been writing some in my spare time..Its going to be a fascinating book.Welcome to the media. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I have been writing some in my spare time..If you can't beat 'em, join 'em?*Edit* Damn, Chris beat me to it. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 Welcome to the media.LOL yes..Im going to ask Brian Burke and Ron Wilson to write me the foreword.. Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 LOL yes..Im going to ask Brian Burke and Ron Wilson to write me the foreword..Well, that would be interesting. Ron Wilson, without knowing you whatsoever, will assume that you're a complete idiot because you're media.... Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,321 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Well, that would be interesting. Ron Wilson, without knowing you whatsoever, will assume that you're a complete idiot because you're not him....FYP Link to post Share on other sites
fryer98 30 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I know that you would wear three feet of Ron Wilson's poop for a necktie,I can't stop laughing at this. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 I can't stop laughing at this. Because of the poop factor or the fact that there is a tie on my neck? Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Without trying to get a rise out of serge, I think it points a lot to coaching again. Every year, when the games meant nothing at the end of the season, the team plays great. When the games count the MOST, for once, they have lost 7 out of 8. Something isn't clicking with the way this team plays. Now, some of that is goaltending inconsistency, but I also think that part of the inconsistency with the goalies is the way they've been managed by Wilson. Both of these goalies played GREAT when there was no competition. So Wilson goes out and says it's a 'meritocracy' and that the best goalie will play, whoever that is, and they both play wildly inconsistently from that day forward.... It would be a shame if they missed the playoffs, they really do deserve better.burke was right! goddamn media turning us against saint ronFYPbahaha Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 **** off..seriously **** off..And Jim Hughson go **** a cow..seriously eat shit and die Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 This is the problems of playing in Toronto..Reimer is one or two more goals away from being Toskala ed ...Already getting the bronx cheer when he makes a save. Link to post Share on other sites
Jason12 0 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 The PK wasn't great since January, the team stopped taking as many penalties. Even with the jump in PK, the best they did was 4th place for the month of January in penalty kill. I know that you would wear three feet of Ron Wilson's poop for a necktie, serge, but if you think this team is good enough to make the playoffs (and I think they are), then WHY are on such a losing streak? Their play in their own end is horrible, their backcheck is minor league calibre.... who's fault is that?I know the coach would be blamed if the Leafs were taking too many penalties so I don't see why Wilson doesn't get credit for having a disciplined team. I also saw you mentioned Wilson messing with the goalies as a reason for the poor play. That may be true but these guys are professional they shouldn't struggle just because there's competition. Having said all that and trying to not be influenced by this poor performance....I think its time for Wilson to go. I have believed for a while that Wilson isnt the terrible coach that everyone seems to make him sound like but this team sucks in big games. Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 That was tough to watch. I don't think the leafs are anywhere near as bad as they have been playing. Also, can anyone explain why, when you're down 4-0, you don't mix your lines up and try ANYTHING??? Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,321 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 That was tough to watch. I don't think the leafs are anywhere near as bad as they have been playing. Also, can anyone explain why, when you're down 4-0, you don't mix your lines up and try ANYTHING???You're just not smart enough to understand that strategy Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 That was tough to watch. I don't think the leafs are anywhere near as bad as they have been playing. Also, can anyone explain why, when you're down 4-0, you don't mix your lines up and try ANYTHING???Really though? Should every team mix up their lines or something every time they get down by a few goals? This actually does seem like media fanaticism to me. I realize teams mix up their lines fairly often, but they set the lines based on what they think they'll do best. They set plays and strategies based on what they do best. So a couple bad periods and they're supposed to blow it all up?not only does 'mixing it up' take you out of your optimal lines/strategies, it implies that those lines/strategies might be the reason why you're losing. by keeping things the same you're reinforcing that you are confident the coaching aspects will be successful, and they need to execute better. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Really though? Should every team mix up their lines or something every time they get down by a few goals? This actually does seem like media fanaticism to me. I realize teams mix up their lines fairly often, but they set the lines based on what they think they'll do best. They set plays and strategies based on what they do best. So a couple bad periods and they're supposed to blow it all up?not only does 'mixing it up' take you out of your optimal lines/strategies, it implies that those lines/strategies might be the reason why you're losing. by keeping things the same you're reinforcing that you are confident the coaching aspects will be successful, and they need to execute better.So if the Caps see what the Leafs are doing and alter their lines or strategy to counter, then the Leafs should just continue along as is? Once the other team makes changes to counter your "optimal lines/strategies" then it only makes sense for you to also change something. No? Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 Its very simple..When youre supposed two top shutdown defenceman play the role of pilons most of the game, you cant win..Reimer actually made some huge saves in the third Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Really though? Should every team mix up their lines or something every time they get down by a few goals? This actually does seem like media fanaticism to me. I realize teams mix up their lines fairly often, but they set the lines based on what they think they'll do best. They set plays and strategies based on what they do best. So a couple bad periods and they're supposed to blow it all up?not only does 'mixing it up' take you out of your optimal lines/strategies, it implies that those lines/strategies might be the reason why you're losing. by keeping things the same you're reinforcing that you are confident the coaching aspects will be successful, and they need to execute better.When your lines aren't doing anything, then yes, every team should mix up their lines. When what you're doing isn't working, then trying something else can't hurt. You're right, you always have optimal lines, but sometimes you need to shake those up temporarily in order to get people going. It's not always about skill, sometimes it's about perspective and motivation... Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 When your lines aren't doing anything, then yes, every team should mix up their lines. When what you're doing isn't working, then trying something else can't hurt. You're right, you always have optimal lines, but sometimes you need to shake those up temporarily in order to get people going. It's not always about skill, sometimes it's about perspective and motivation...He did mix up the lines thoughKulemin was demoted to the 4th line..This btw is the stupidest thing ever...You arent scoring so we will put you with less talented players and give you less ice time.. Link to post Share on other sites
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