Scott3705

.5/1 6-max (5 handed)Hero button (175) 6 7 Villian CO covers (No PT going, but I'd imagine he was somewhere around 30-35/20)Folds to Villian who raises 3, Hero calls, blinds foldFLOP ($7)8 5 K Villian bets $5, Hero callsTURN ($17)J :heart:villians bets $15, hero callsRiver 10 ($47)Villians bets $15, hero raises to $50, Villian reraises all-in, $100 more to call. Questions on hand:1. Obviously I usually raise this flop. This player was pretty aggressive preflop and 2&3 barrelled a lot. He had gotten caught a few orbits ago. Basically here, I can't get everything in the middle

I'll probably be the other dissenter along with Kermit about the turn.flop: yes, bet more. blah blah.turn: You have a button calling in position against against a probable steal. I float this flop a lot in position to take it away at the turn at 5 and 6 max. I'll do this against players that rarely follow up c-bets with a second bet if they miss. (Specifically only CO vs. button situations though.) On the flip side, you will find a lot of players that will call here with an underpair to see if you miss... you check, they bet, you call. Good in that you got more money in the pot w/ a better

Except for folding to a reraise preflop, I can't see how this hand plays differently by reraising. Reraising shortens stacks and creates less wiggle room. We get away from this flop when we've got over 3 streets worth of bets, not when we've squeezed our action into the flop. You reraise, he smooth calls and this flop comes, you get C/Red the action goes like:Bet.08 reraise to 3, callFlop(6)Check, Bet 6, reraise 25 and you're getting 2:1 with TPTK in what could be a likely chop or a draw.

Anything less than top pair is giving us 2 free cards here. So we're not opening up ourselves to a raise from anything that isn't raising our smooth call.

Fold. obv.what happens if we get a call behind us, a 10 hits, and we're bet into? What if we get a call, and blank both streets going check check? What if....?I understand what you're trying to do with the raise. I just think it's a misguided play. Cleaning up outs is more of a LHE concept than a NL concept. If anyone behind has something that's beating you, you're probably hearing from it whether you call or raise. With both of the blinds short, they are likely moving on top pair + and not overcalling with an 8. So the raise isn't running anyone out that isn't leaving anyone and you'r

I was going to type out basically this same response. The only thing I would agains stress is that calling the river is probably just about as cheap (maybe slightly more expensive) than raising this turn. I wouldn't say that calling the turn is necessarily the "cautious" approach, it's just the more calculated approach for reasons cited by simo. You bet to make better hands fold and worse hands call. You don't fold AA here and you fold AK here. Only reason to raise is to protect your hand. But you will be wrong with your read a certain amount of the time and be close to having to call an

I would assume to fold to a push. Except we scratch our heads and wonder if he moved in on us with 77-1010 which sucks and is why we should be reraising preflop.

So raise/fold against the villian and raise/call against the donkey?

I like calling behind in position for all the reasons Nomad stated. Why raise the turn? You're going to force yourself to make a really thin fold if he comes over the top? Are you just trying to dictate showdown? River will probably be just as cheap...maybe more, but atleast you might be catching a bluff.

is FR 200 online full of nits? just wondering? I haven't played it in over a year but remember I never saw any action except for on the Boss Network.Because jacks are so hard to play, I like to re pop to define my hand agains the villian. I'm usually not a fan of trying to define your hand, but Jacks is one of those excrutiatingly difficult hands to play that I think it's the best route.

Not your question, but maybe fold preflop. (910 is my border line suited connectors that I'm going to take heads up SHed. I'll call against a tighty and usually fold them against habitual button stealers. Anything less I'm usually folding.) suited connectors dont' really play well out of the blinds against LP raisers in shed games.Not your question either, but I'd prefer to weak bet the flop as opposed to the C/R. I guess this sort of depends on how you going about the lines you take when you're defending the blinds with air. I weak lead a lot, so that's sort of my default line.Stakes make

no usually in unraised pots, but in relatively deepstack hands, I may play a draw like this. Especially with the paired board that gives me a transparent bluff card. Assuming the villian doesn't know he shouldn't draw on paired boards, he can pull this with a strong draw since he'll never price himself out of the hand and can pull a seemingly "stronger" line. If this were a raised pot and a little deeper, I could lean toward calling if I had a read that he was reasonably aggressive and/or creative. Being an unraised pot with no reads, I'm sort of resigned to assuming he has a better 4 and

call and fold if some one wakes up behind you. standardish.

I don't like the back and forth thinking of calling for the implied odds of hitting a 5 and having to win an incremental $600 to make a profitable call and calling behind to see if he's really that strong. If I was dead sure, he had 44, I'd peel. if I was wishy washy (which we all seem to be) I can't call because I might not have the implied odds I think I do. The 5 could stop our action against A7, 78 or he might have a draw and be done with the hand which some think (I don't.) I think he has either 44, A7, 78,79, 67. I think you're crushed here most of the time, but I can't call for implie

Yeah, quick call. Your equity is likely 50% here unless he's putting you on pp paint and trying to take the pot which would be outstanding.

blah.I can just hear the comments from the other way. "Standard. Donks at this level couldn't even fold AQ here let alone an overpair." Poker is a frustrating game.Stakes make me calling it. Action makes me fold it.

I disagree about continuing the bluff on the turn. He's going have a king or jack here enough that betting's not going to do anything really. You don't fold either of these hands anymore. If the jack didn't come, I would agree but you've got to fold top and the flop second pair now. I just give up. The river is a spew IMO. You checked the turn and VBAB which rarely ever works but gets overused. (Thank you DN).

I usually don't raise the flop and will raise the turn more. (not on the Ace though).turn is a fold after the C/r. Anyone prefer to check behind on the turn? I think you get more value from 99- (being able to bet a checked river). and don't get trapped wondering what's going on cause you gave him sort of a price to float.

Yeah, I know. I kept that in mind two weekends ago and lost a $2500 pot at a 2/5 table getting set over set.

That was sort of my thinking why I would have taken out A8 and A3 hands from Acid's range here. I'd assume we're floating the flop with these hands to try to catch something sneaky and villian will call off if we hit good. Yet we think his call with j8 is awful, so our implied odds are awful to make the call unless we're bluffing him on the turn (which there's really no reason to if we had a hand like A8 and the A doesn't come). The only Aces up hand I see there is AJ. So like I said before, it seems like we're trying to communicate a very narrow range of hands to make our bluff work. Sa

fold. You beat worse sevens. Craziness if he shows up with a str8 flush draw, but completely limped pot, this is a quick fold for me as would be a flopped flush with the same action.

I'd actually say that with the push, you probably fold an overpair a lot of the time. I think this is standard if you play laggish and are doing this with a variety of different hands (not just super combo draws). If you're tag, than Tskilz is right on saying that you're probably folding a lot of hands that you want to call that a smaller reraise would bring a long. There's too many scare cards not to reraise, but raising to 5 is probably pretty good and getting the rest of them in on the turn.As a side note (on the off chance this is a disguised cooler post) I once folded this flop w/ top s

This is the sort of reasoning that I've started to play big made hands like this. People just tend to lose their mind on the turn when you donk-bet into them out of seemingly nowhere. neither he nor there.Villian showed As6c.

I completely trusted my read on this one just by the check. I was obviously shown I was right when he called. I bet hoping he had something like AK and might actually try to build up the pot, but he didn't.