StilettoNole 0 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Villain has been playing me super, super aggressively, I have caught him bluffing a few times, but he bets so hard it makes calling with one pair (which is good most of the time) very hard. On the turn, I was thinking of raising, but I thought that I would get more money by just smooth calling and letting him do the betting for me on the river. Am I an idiot? Thanks.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)Hero ($86.05)BB ($79)Preflop: Hero is Button with , . Hero raises to $1.75, BB calls $1.Flop: ($3.25) , , (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $2, BB raises to $5.5, Hero calls $3.50.Turn: ($14.25) (2 players)BB bets $8.5, Hero calls $8.50.River: ($31.25) (2 players)BB bets $22, Hero ? Link to post Share on other sites
Hiles Mall 0 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 your good, im sure he has a lower two pair. only way i think your beat is if he played his 4 5 open ended real strong. i just call the river though, no raise just to be safe, already a big pot. i make a min. raise on the turn though, suckers can't get away from a min. raise so they often re-bluff. the min. raise is such a strong play online. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 If he's been playing really aggressively, you NEED to raise the turn. If you're gonna call that raise with 2nd pair on the flop, you must get value for your hand to compensate for the times where you don't improve and you have to give up the hand.I think that if you raise the river, you might get called by worse 2 pair hands, but he's mostly repping a set here I guess, so probably flatting the river is best. Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Def check behind the flop imo, shove river. Link to post Share on other sites
MinhLyFan 1 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 You need to raise the turn. There are a ton of action killers that can hit on the river, so you need to punish him asap. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Def check behind the flop imo, shove river.no way. this is HU and we raised pf. c-bet this all day long hitting a pair. Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Why?We have a showdownable hand, we don't get any value from betting, we're not charging any draws to continue, we're rarely getting calling by a worse hand, we don't want to get raised on the flop, checking allows us to pick of bluffs on the turn or river, value bet later on in the hand, and not get raised of a hand that right now can't stand to play a big pot. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Why?We have a showdownable hand, we don't get any value from betting, we're not charging any draws to continue, we're rarely getting calling by a worse hand, we don't want to get raised on the flop, checking allows us to pick of bluffs on the turn or river, value bet later on in the hand, and not get raised of a hand that right now can't stand to play a big pot.to protect you hand, you have the best hand a huge percentage of the time. Also it works well for meta game reasons. When you raise preflop and C-bet a large percentage of a time we get into a situation where someone has to raise your c-bet to find out if they are good or not. It gets so much easier to get a villain's stack if you bet a wide range here. Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Not saying i'm dead right with any certainty here, but i watched this http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QK4CRL3N video from a 10/20 player and saw how often he checked behind on the flop.I dunno, i'm probably wrong, but i think it's something to consider. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Not saying i'm dead right with any certainty here, but i watched this http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QK4CRL3N video from a 10/20 player and saw how often he checked behind on the flop.I dunno, i'm probably wrong, but i think it's something to consider.I think 10/20 and the lower limits play a lot differently, as you move up the games get much more aggressive and you are going to get check raised a ton.I think it is a play you can make when you are playing an uber aggressive opponent. Are you sure you realize this is heads up poker? how can you check behind 2nd pair? it is practically the nuts. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Edit to my above post:I didn't realize this was HU. I still say raise the turn, but definitely raise/shove river since you didn't. Link to post Share on other sites
ROBBBIGG 0 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 You played it fine, I can check turn or raise it. I definitely shove river. Link to post Share on other sites
Craigdog 0 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 if your not going to raise the turn then at least raise the river.... Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Play for stacks once we get to the turn. Just figure out a way to get it in... Link to post Share on other sites
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