Cnn Vs Fox News

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Glenn Beck (The Retard) didn't like that much and called Barbara Bush the Oatmeal Box lady and said calling Palin beautiful is insulting.

Calling someone beautiful is insulting, but it's ok to call someone the Oatmeal Box lady?Wait, who is the oatmeal box lady? Is he talking about Quaker Oats? That's...that's not a lady, right?You know, that's actually kind of funny.

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Calling someone beautiful is insulting, but it's ok to call someone the Oatmeal Box lady?Wait, who is the oatmeal box lady? Is he talking about Quaker Oats? That's...that's not a lady, right?You know, that's actually kind of funny.

It might be a man, but she really does look like him.

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It's might be a man, but she really does look like him.

luckily, it's ok to insult a women unless that woman is a tea partier.

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Beck pictured Soros as a deeply evil figure, a shadowy manipulator whose marionettes include unions, the Democratic Party, the media, and the President; a rapacious financier who seeks to subvert and destroy the American republic in order to satisfy his own greed for money and advance his plot to establish an all-powerful global state under his control. As it happens, these tropes correspond uncannily to those of classical anti-Semitism. This was too much for many who recognized the resemblance; Beck’s denouncers included not only the Anti-Defamation League but also Commentary, the neoconservative organ, and Reason, the libertarian bible. Certainly, the vast bulk of Beck’s fans didn’t recognize the tropes; probably he didn’t, either. “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” is not among the books he recommends to his fans. (“The Red Network,” by Elizabeth Dilling, to whom President Eisenhower was “Ike the Kike” and President Kennedy’s program the “Jew Frontier,” however, is.)

The New Yorker takes issue with Beck using portions of their article on Soros out-of-context, and sort of accuses him of anti-semitism

The thing is, we've all been well-conditioned to dismiss certain things, without bothering to examine whether or not they might have some substance to them... We're all poker players here. We're people who, at minimum, have a certain intelligence type as it relates to the qualitative intentions of other people. Some people completely lack this intelligence type. They only believe what they see and what they're told. Others, though, are able to read into things, between the likes and comprehend what might be going on under the rug.When you really dig out the truth- as far as 'who' is behind certain things. then apply that intelligence type we all have, the conclusion is pretty glaring, yet we're supposed to disregard it in this one instance, since egalitarian ideals say so.

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http://www.alternet.org/story/149193/study...kes_you_stupid/Have no agenda or opinion here; but here is some ammo for you peeps

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http://www.alternet.org/story/149193/study...kes_you_stupid/Have no agenda or opinion here; but here is some ammo for you peeps

don't need to read any farther than this:By the way, the rest of the media was not blameless. CNN and the broadcast network news operations fared only slightly better in many cases. Even MSNBC, which had the best record of accurately informing viewers, has a ways to go before it can brag about it.

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http://www.alternet.org/story/149193/study...kes_you_stupid/Have no agenda or opinion here; but here is some ammo for you peeps

* 91 percent believe the stimulus legislation lost jobsClearly true, I don't see how anyone can deny this. There was a huge jump in unemployment directly tied to the stimulus, and there is no plausible theory that allows deficit spending to create jobs. Reality matters. * 72 percent believe the health reform law will increase the deficitWithout the "doc fix", it will. Dems already put it off once, and there is zero chance it will be passed. So this one is correct. * 72 percent believe the economy is getting worseIt depends on what you measure, but basically, who knows? * 60 percent believe climate change is not occurringOK, it's undeniable that over the last 100 years the climate has warmed. What's debatable is the portion that can be attributed to human activity. So on the one, the actual question matters. * 49 percent believe income taxes have gone upSince when? And does "deferred taxes" count? * 63 percent believe the stimulus legislation did not include any tax cutsOK, this one is clearly wrong, but if it increases other taxes, is that really a tax cut? * 56 percent believe Obama initiated the GM/Chrysler bailoutHe finalized it and turned it into a Union giveaway, so I say close enough. * 38 percent believe that most Republicans opposed TARPOK, 38%, so the majority are correct? * 63 percent believe Obama was not born in the U.S. (or that it is unclear)What does "or is unclear" mean? Does it mean the tiniest bit of doubt, or does it mean "pretty sure there's no evidence either way". The question matters on this one.

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There was a huge jump in unemployment directly tied to the stimulus

substantiate this claim.

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OK, it's undeniable that over the last 100 years the climate has warmed.

Substantiate this claim too

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substantiate this claim.

The most obvious connection is to use Obama's own claims that unemployment would reach 8% if they didn't do the stimulus. They did the stimulus, and it reached 10%. The obvious connection is that billions of dollars were moved from the productive economy onto government books, little of which was spent, and the little that was was just wasteful. It created a huge uncertainty in the economy as people waited to see where the money went.I know the Keynesians like to pretend "it would've been so much worse otherwise", but there doesn't seem to be a model that predicts that deficit spending can improve the economy, and many models that show that it harms it. Guess which one actual results vindicated.....

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Substantiate this claim too

Temperature records from around the world are all pretty similar to this:

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The most obvious connection is to use Obama's own claims that unemployment would reach 8% if they didn't do the stimulus. They did the stimulus, and it reached 10%. The obvious connection is that billions of dollars were moved from the productive economy onto government books, little of which was spent, and the little that was was just wasteful. It created a huge uncertainty in the economy as people waited to see where the money went.I know the Keynesians like to pretend "it would've been so much worse otherwise", but there doesn't seem to be a model that predicts that deficit spending can improve the economy, and many models that show that it harms it. Guess which one actual results vindicated.....

I just want to see the direct connection between stimulus and unemployment. like, did you have some data, or were you just talking?

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I just want to see the direct connection between stimulus and unemployment. like, did you have some data, or were you just talking?

What "direct connection" would be evidence for you?How about the hundreds of economists who signed a statement warning that it is exactly what would happen if the stimulus were passed? Or all the economists who, before the unemployment rate went up, explained why it was about to go up, and why? Or, like, the actual evidence that it went up exactly as expected over the correct time frame?I mean, at some point, when a theory holds up again and again and again, you have to say yeah, that's the best explanation.Can it ever be proved decisively in the real world? Of course not, it doesn't work that way. But how much more evidence would anyone want?

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Here's a good explanation of why it was about to cause unemployment to jump:http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,487425,00.html

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the replies here to the study about fox news making u less informed is hilarious.like a bunch of vermin animals running around in a small box realizing that they've all been had, LOL.

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There was a huge jump in unemployment directly tied to the stimulus

Can it ever be proved decisively in the real world? Of course not, it doesn't work that way. But how much more evidence would anyone want?

I'd want enough evidence to actually illustrate a direct link between stimulus and unemployment. I don't think that evidence exists. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that your claim was entirely too strong given how muddled and complicated it was. I don't think you're vermin.

[Balloon guy 158]

Temperature records from around the world are all pretty similar to this:

Raising and falling all the time in cyclical patterns?I am also not as willing as you to trust that Obadiah and Jedediah were able to lower their candle wick far enough down the gopher hole to get an accurate reading of the earth's magma to lay down a reliable benchmark for us to trust 100 years ago.Copyright Dennis Miller

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Fox News viewers are much more likely than others to believe false information about American politics, a new study concludesThe study, conducted by the University of Maryland, judged how likely consumers of various news outlets and publications were to believe misinformation about a wide range of political issues. Overall, 90% of respondents said they felt they had heard false information being given to them during the 2010 election campaign. However, while consumers of just about every news outlet believed some information that was false, the study found that Fox News viewers, regardless of political information, were "significantly more likely" to believe that:--Most economists estimate the stimulus caused job losses (12 points more likely) --Most economists have estimated the health care law will worsen the deficit (31 points)--The economy is getting worse (26 points)--Most scientists do not agree that climate change is occurring (30 points)--The stimulus legislation did not include any tax cuts (14 points)--Their own income taxes have gone up (14 points)--The auto bailout only occurred under Obama (13 points)--When TARP came up for a vote most Republicans opposed it (12 points)--And that it is not clear that Obama was born in the United States (31 points)In addition, the study said, increased viewership of Fox News led to increased belief in these false stories.

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In addition, the study said, increased viewership of Fox News led to increased belief in these false stories.

Not surprising since these are the same folks who believe stuff like "the earth is 6000 years old" and "some guy died 2000 years ago and then came back to life after rotting in a cave for three days".

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Not surprising since these are the same folks who believe stuff like "the earth is 6000 years old" and "some guy died 2000 years ago and then came back to life after rotting in a cave for three days".

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Fox News viewers are much more likely than others to believe false information about American politics, a new study concludesThe study, conducted by the University of Maryland, judged how likely consumers of various news outlets and publications were to believe misinformation about a wide range of political issues. Overall, 90% of respondents said they felt they had heard false information being given to them during the 2010 election campaign. However, while consumers of just about every news outlet believed some information that was false, the study found that Fox News viewers, regardless of political information, were "significantly more likely" to believe that:--Most economists estimate the stimulus caused job losses (12 points more likely)

And we all know that the truth is that most economist don't have a clue what caused the job lose, and won't until years from now when they have all the data.

--Most economists have estimated the health care law will worsen the deficit (31 points)

And we all know that this could never happen, saddling the government with a 2-5 Trillion dollar responsibility should have no effect on the amount of money the government spends in the future....

--The economy is getting worse (26 points)

And we all know that the economy is getting...better?

--Most scientists do not agree that climate change is occurring (30 points)

And we all know that most scientist in the field getting money from Algore agree that the temperature will now get cooler as winter approaches

--The stimulus legislation did not include any tax cuts (14 points)

And we all know that Obama actually didn't choose to raise taxes because raising taxes is bad for the economy according to the democrat leadership, AND we know that not raising taxes is also called a tax cut in liberal lala land.

--Their own income taxes have gone up (14 points)

And we all know that reduced spending habits of individuals and changes in spending never ever ever change the amount of write offs a person can use, which could result in them paying more taxes.

--The auto bailout only occurred under Obama (13 points)

And we all know that the implication that this is/was bad is clear because they are doing their best to tie Bush to it so they can share the blame, yet they will forget that the stimulus package that was 100% Obama's was where the GM bailout came from that basically gave the UAW union all their $200 million donations for the Obama election campaign.

--When TARP came up for a vote most Republicans opposed it (12 points)

And we all know that TARP was necessary ( according to everyone ) and that TARP funds have been paid back with interest, and1 in ten people thinking that republican's opposed it or not means nothing if you take 3 seconds and 4 brain cells to ask yourself why they would phrase a question like this and how dumb can they think the readers are that spouting this like its an admonition of anything is a joke.

--And that it is not clear that Obama was born in the United States (31 points)

And we all know that Obama was merely raised for most of his childhood in Indonesia because his Kenyan Marxist father wouldn't have anything to do with him and his mother Stanley only dumped him off on his grandmother ( who is a racist according to Obama) after she decided that Barry was not happy having new fathers every few years in many different countries.

In addition, the study said, increased viewership of Fox News led to increased belief in these false stories.

Because this scientific study also polled these exact same people 5 years ago to see.....wait a minute, they couldn't have because TARP hadn't happened, so that would mean that they were so busy pulling 'facts' out of their azz that they forgot to place their report through anything remotely close to a truth meter and that only the dumbest of sheep would buy it.No offense RtB and vb,but puleeseeee Keep this garbage in the 'we rabid democrats will believe anything' thread. This thread requires a minimum of thought.

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I'd want enough evidence to actually illustrate a direct link between stimulus and unemployment. I don't think that evidence exists. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that your claim was entirely too strong given how muddled and complicated it was. I don't think you're vermin.

I'm just saying, when theory and results agree for something like 80 years, it's time to start paying attention.

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Fox News viewers are much more likely than others to believe false information about American politics, a new study concludesThe study, conducted by the University of Maryland, judged how likely consumers of various news outlets and publications were to believe misinformation about a wide range of political issues. Overall, 90% of respondents said they felt they had heard false information being given to them during the 2010 election campaign. However, while consumers of just about every news outlet believed some information that was false, the study found that Fox News viewers, regardless of political information, were "significantly more likely" to believe that:--And that it is not clear that Obama was born in the United States (31 points)In addition, the study said, increased viewership of Fox News led to increased belief in these false stories.

Here is my favorite part of these type of polls.Someone spent a bunch of money to ask a polling company to 'find out if Fox News viewers are likely to believe X"Now if you own a polling company, do you think you you can figure out what the people paying your large bills want to hear? and do you want repeat business?So you ask this question:Is it possible that a person who spent $600,000,000 to gain a $400,000 a year job and become the most powerful person in the world could in fact forge a typewritten piece of paper in a simple format AND break into the incredible security of the Hawaiian Department of Records department and slip this paper into a file cabinet under the watchful eye of a lady who has been there for 27 years except on Fridays, Saturdays, Sunday and all federal holidays?Yes? Then you must be a birther...Thank you, here's $42,000, We'll call you back tomorrow to find out if people who believe in God also believe that God could change the molecules of water into wine all by Himself without the aid of a computer.

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Here is my favorite part of these type of polls.Someone spent a bunch of money to ask a polling company to 'find out if Fox News viewers are likely to believe X"Now if you own a polling company, do you think you you can figure out what the people paying your large bills want to hear? and do you want repeat business?

The study, conducted by the University of Maryland

[Balloon guy 158]

More proof that universities have fallen in standards to the point of being shills for the democrat party and global warming fear malingerers.AND pot smoking hippy liberalsClass...your assignment for today is to prove that Fox News is really bad. You will only be graded positively if you can support what I already know to be the case, that republicans are dumb.Feel free to use this grant money donated by Moveon.org if the federal funds run out for your projects.