Is This An Official Raise?

[Gallo 1]

Ok, it's 4 handed, final table. Blinds are at 200/400. I'm BB, UTG limps, Button folds, SB goes all in for another 150 (So SB is in for 550), I call, UTG tries to reraise.There was an argument over this, I said that since the SB didn't really make a complete raise that it is NOT a raise and UTG cannot reraise all in. Other players said that UTG could reraise since the SB did make some type of raise more than the BB. Am I correct in saying that UTG can only call and not raise?Also where can I find official tournament rules?By the way, I told UTG he should've raised preflop to begin with instead of limping. I didn't win the hand anyway.

[copernicus 0]

Ok, it's 4 handed, final table. Blinds are at 200/400. I'm BB, UTG limps, Button folds, SB goes all in for another 150 (So SB is in for 550), I call, UTG tries to reraise.There was an argument over this, I said that since the SB didn't really make a complete raise that it is NOT a raise and UTG cannot reraise all in. Other players said that UTG could reraise since the SB did make some type of raise more than the BB. Am I correct in saying that UTG can only call and not raise?Also where can I find official tournament rules?By the way, I told UTG he should've raised preflop to begin with instead of limping. I didn't win the hand anyway.

Rules differ from casino to casino and tourney to tourney. On this one Ive seen it two ways...any raise keeps the action open, or a raise of 1/2 or more of the minimum raise (if he werent short) keeps the action open anything less and its not a raise.

[DCJ001 0]

Here is the applicable rule:"In no-limit and pot limit, less than a full raise does not reopen the betting to a player who already has acted."The original bettor in your game should not have been able to raise. This rule should be the followed in all poker rooms, but some dealers and floorpeople are not knowledgeable.The 50% rule does not apply in this case. It says:"If a player puts in a raise of 50 percent or more of the previous bet, he will be required to make a full raise. The raise will be exactly the minimum raise allowed."If a player is all in for 50% or more than the original bet, but does not make a complete raise, his bet does not reopen the betting to a player who already has acted.http://www.pokertda.com/rules.pdfhttp://pokercoach.us/RobsPkrRules6.htm

[Gallo 1]

Here is the applicable rule:"In no-limit and pot limit, less than a full raise does not reopen the betting to a player who already has acted."The original bettor in your game should not have been able to raise. This rule should be the followed in all poker rooms, but some dealers and floorpeople are not knowledgeable.The 50% rule does not apply in this case. It says:"If a player puts in a raise of 50 percent or more of the previous bet, he will be required to make a full raise. The raise will be exactly the minimum raise allowed."If a player is all in for 50% or more than the original bet, but does not make a complete raise, his bet does not reopen the betting to a player who already has acted.http://www.pokertda.com/rules.pdfhttp://pokercoach.us/RobsPkrRules6.htm

Thank you. Now to go and collect my money.

[TwoFourOffsuit 0]

I always figured that if a player had to throw in any amount of chips to complete the betting round in NLHE, he always has the right to reraise, whether or not a previous raise after your call was a complete bet.This is the first I've read of this being an issue. If he has to toss in chips to remain in the hand after initially calling, would he not have a right to re-pop it?

[DCJ001 0]

I always figured that if a player had to throw in any amount of chips to complete the betting round in NLHE, he always has the right to reraise, whether or not a previous raise after your call was a complete bet.This is the first I've read of this being an issue. If he has to toss in chips to remain in the hand after initially calling, would he not have a right to re-pop it?

"In no-limit and pot limit, less than a full raise does not reopen the betting to a player who already has acted."

[TwoFourOffsuit 0]

"In no-limit and pot limit, less than a full raise does not reopen the betting to a player who already has acted."

This is an interesting rule that I'll keep in mind, if this comes up at my next tourney. I never knew, and clearly, neither do most people! Good to know.

[Zach6668 513]

Great advice! I read this and studied it before I played a 180, and finished 20th my first try, some bad beats and I was out, but this really helped.

Wrong thread?

[ChrisRichey 1]

Great advice! I read this and studied it before I played a 180, and finished 20th my first try, some bad beats and I was out, but this really helped.

Congrats?

[GeneralGeeWhiz 0]

Wrong thread?

Yes Zach. LOLOLOL, sorry.

[ChrisRichey 1]

Yes Zach. LOLOLOL, sorry.

So are you playing the $22 180s?

[Zach6668 513]

Yes Zach. LOLOLOL, sorry.

I think I fixed it.

[ChrisRichey 1]

I think I fixed it.

Oh snap, Zach has mod skillz.

[GeneralGeeWhiz 0]

I think I fixed it.

Thanks Zach.Chris, I'm talking about the 4.40 180sng. I'm not a high roller, yet.

[ChrisRichey 1]

Thanks Zach.Chris, I'm talking about the 4.40 180sng. I'm not a high roller, yet.

Kind of hi-jacking this thread, but I play the 4.40's too. If you like the 180's, you should def give the $5.50 90 person doublestack sngs on FT a shot, they are easy money.

[YBravo 0]

Kind of hi-jacking this thread, but I play the 4.40's too. If you like the 180's, you should def give the $5.50 90 person doublestack sngs on FT a shot, they are easy money.

QFTJust don't try to outplay anyone. Every once in a while I'm like "if I re-raise with pocket 4's, he probably won't call, right?"

[GeneralGeeWhiz 0]

Kind of hi-jacking this thread, but I play the 4.40's too. If you like the 180's, you should def give the $5.50 90 person doublestack sngs on FT a shot, they are easy money.

Orly? I'll give it a shot soon. Thanks. And Bravo, that is true. I just played my second and got called by bottom pair on a tough board...