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game is 2/5 at MGM in downtown detroit (awesome city). Villian 1 is a pretty TAG player, played with him a few times; not much of a thinker though. Only plays his own cards. Prob a slight loser over the long run. Villian two i have never played against but so far this session (maybe 2-3 hours) has exhibited tendencies of a tight passive player.Stacks: Villian one: ~800, villian two ~400, hero covers.folds to Villian 1 who opens in like 3rd or 4th position for $30, which is slightly above avg raise with no limpers. Id say 25 was avg with no prior action. Villian two, directly on his left calls calls. I have AQ off in BB and elect to call (maybe i should fold here to be honest).Flop is ak5 with 2 diamonds (hero has no diamonds). I check and it gets checked through.Turn is 7 off suit. I decide to check, partly because villian one could have been slowplaying AA/KK/AK and my hand's only real value here is as a bluff stopper, as i doubt either player has something like AJ/A10. Maybe AJ, but doubtful. To my surprise, both villians check.River is 10 off suit. I decide to try to get a call from KQ/AJ/QQ/etc and bet 60$. Villian 1 makes it 160, villain two folds. Whats my play?

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game is 2/5 at MGM in downtown detroit (awesome city). Villian 1 is a pretty TAG player, played with him a few times; not much of a thinker though. Only plays his own cards. Prob a slight loser over the long run. Villian two i have never played against but so far this session (maybe 2-3 hours) has exhibited tendencies of a tight passive player.Stacks: Villian one: ~800, villian two ~400, hero covers.folds to Villian 1 who opens in like 3rd or 4th position for $30, which is slightly above avg raise with no limpers. Id say 25 was avg with no prior action. Villian two, directly on his left calls calls. I have AQ off in BB and elect to call (maybe i should fold here to be honest).Flop is ak5 with 2 diamonds (hero has no diamonds). I check and it gets checked through.Turn is 7 off suit. I decide to check, partly because villian one could have been slowplaying AA/KK/AK and my hand's only real value here is as a bluff stopper, as i doubt either player has something like AJ/A10. Maybe AJ, but doubtful. To my surprise, both villians check.River is 10 off suit. I decide to try to get a call from KQ/AJ/QQ/etc and bet 60$. Villian 1 makes it 160, villain two folds. Whats my play?
1st off, I like playing at MGM Detroit.It makes me wonder if he had AK, AQ, AJ or flopped a set why would he check through with 2 diamonds on the board and 2 callers. Wouldn't he bet on the flop and see where he's at in the hand? My analysis is probably off, but I would probably call his river raise. And he probably would've shown 10 10 for a rivered set.
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Turn is 7 off suit. I decide to check, partly because villian one could have been slowplaying AA/KK/AK and my hand's only real value here is as a bluff stopper, as i doubt either player has something like AJ/A10. Maybe AJ, but doubtful. To my surprise, both villians check.River is 10 off suit. I decide to try to get a call from KQ/AJ/QQ/etc and bet 60$. Villian 1 makes it 160, villain two folds. Whats my play?
Check/call river IMO... but ISAPAs played, I'd crying call
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1st off, I like playing at MGM Detroit.It makes me wonder if he had AK, AQ, AJ or flopped a set why would he check through with 2 diamonds on the board and 2 callers. Wouldn't he bet on the flop and see where he's at in the hand? My analysis is probably off, but I would probably call his river raise. And he probably would've shown 10 10 for a rivered set.
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game is 2/5 at MGM in downtown detroit (awesome city). Villian 1 is a pretty TAG player, played with him a few times; not much of a thinker though. Only plays his own cards. Prob a slight loser over the long run. Villian two i have never played against but so far this session (maybe 2-3 hours) has exhibited tendencies of a tight passive player.Stacks: Villian one: ~800, villian two ~400, hero covers.folds to Villian 1 who opens in like 3rd or 4th position for $30, which is slightly above avg raise with no limpers. Id say 25 was avg with no prior action. Villian two, directly on his left calls calls. I have AQ off in BB and elect to call (maybe i should fold here to be honest).Flop is ak5 with 2 diamonds (hero has no diamonds). I check and it gets checked through.Turn is 7 off suit. I decide to check, partly because villian one could have been slowplaying AA/KK/AK and my hand's only real value here is as a bluff stopper, as i doubt either player has something like AJ/A10. Maybe AJ, but doubtful. To my surprise, both villians check.River is 10 off suit. I decide to try to get a call from KQ/AJ/QQ/etc and bet 60$. Villian 1 makes it 160, villain two folds. Whats my play?
so based strictly on your read of him, how can you ever call? if he is only looking at his own cards and not thinking about what you could be betting with, he is raising for value only
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so based strictly on your read of him, how can you ever call? if he is only looking at his own cards and not thinking about what you could be betting with, he is raising for value only
Yes, but after check check kind of action, villain playing his owns cards often reasons that KQ KJ is gooooood here...Still, I C/C, but as played I'd call
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game is 2/5 at MGM in downtown detroit (awesome city). Villian 1 is a pretty TAG player, played with him a few times; not much of a thinker though. Only plays his own cards. Prob a slight loser over the long run. Villian two i have never played against but so far this session (maybe 2-3 hours) has exhibited tendencies of a tight passive player.Stacks: Villian one: ~800, villian two ~400, hero covers.folds to Villian 1 who opens in like 3rd or 4th position for $30, which is slightly above avg raise with no limpers. Id say 25 was avg with no prior action. Villian two, directly on his left calls calls. I have AQ off in BB and elect to call (maybe i should fold here to be honest).Flop is ak5 with 2 diamonds (hero has no diamonds). I check and it gets checked through.Turn is 7 off suit. I decide to check, partly because villian one could have been slowplaying AA/KK/AK and my hand's only real value here is as a bluff stopper, as i doubt either player has something like AJ/A10. Maybe AJ, but doubtful. To my surprise, both villians check.River is 10 off suit. I decide to try to get a call from KQ/AJ/QQ/etc and bet 60$. Villian 1 makes it 160, villain two folds. Whats my play?
If villian is as tag as you say he is then I don't think we're ever seeing a set here very often other then tens. I think we see QJs here a high percentage of the time, no?
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Thoughts at any point in this hand?PokerStars Game #29091917880: Hold'em No Limit (1/2) - 2009/06/07 9:12:04 CT [2009/06/07 10:12:04 ET]Table 'Goffin IV' 2-max (Play Money) Seat #1 is the buttonSeat 1: ADDILAC299 (829 in chips) Seat 2: time2pokeher (821 in chips) ADDILAC299: posts small blind 1time2pokeher: posts big blind 2*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to ADDILAC299 [6d Td]ADDILAC299 said, "nice scam"ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 4time2pokeher: raises 2 to 6ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 8time2pokeher: raises 2 to 10ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 12time2pokeher: raises 2 to 14ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 16time2pokeher: raises 2 to 18ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 20time2pokeher: raises 2 to 22ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 24time2pokeher: raises 2 to 26ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 28time2pokeher: raises 2 to 30ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 32time2pokeher: raises 2 to 34ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 36time2pokeher: raises 2 to 38ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 40time2pokeher: raises 2 to 42ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 44time2pokeher: raises 2 to 46ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 48time2pokeher: raises 2 to 50ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 52time2pokeher: raises 2 to 54ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 56time2pokeher: raises 2 to 58ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 60time2pokeher: raises 2 to 62ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 64time2pokeher: raises 2 to 66ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 68time2pokeher: raises 2 to 70ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 72time2pokeher: raises 2 to 74ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 76time2pokeher: raises 2 to 78ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 80time2pokeher: raises 2 to 82ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 84time2pokeher: raises 2 to 86ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 88time2pokeher: raises 2 to 90ADDILAC299 said, "i got a big one"ADDILAC299 said, "wtf"ADDILAC299 said, "?"ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 92time2pokeher said, "I'm repping such strength"time2pokeher: raises 2 to 94ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 96time2pokeher: raises 2 to 98ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 100time2pokeher: raises 2 to 102ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 104time2pokeher: raises 2 to 106ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 108time2pokeher said, "your range is sick here"time2pokeher said, "idk"time2pokeher: raises 2 to 110ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 112time2pokeher: raises 2 to 114ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 116time2pokeher: raises 2 to 118ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 120time2pokeher: raises 2 to 122ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 124time2pokeher: raises 2 to 126ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 128time2pokeher: raises 2 to 130ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 132time2pokeher: raises 2 to 134ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 136time2pokeher: raises 2 to 138ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 140time2pokeher: raises 2 to 142ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 144time2pokeher: raises 2 to 146ADDILAC299: calls 2*** FLOP *** [Qh Qd 9h]time2pokeher: bets 2ADDILAC299: calls 2*** TURN *** [Qh Qd 9h] [2s]time2pokeher: bets 2ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 4time2pokeher: raises 2 to 6ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 8time2pokeher: raises 2 to 10ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 12time2pokeher: raises 2 to 14ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 16time2pokeher: raises 2 to 18ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 20time2pokeher: raises 2 to 22ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 24time2pokeher: raises 2 to 26ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 28time2pokeher: raises 2 to 30ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 32time2pokeher: raises 2 to 34ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 36time2pokeher: raises 2 to 38ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 40time2pokeher: raises 2 to 42ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 44time2pokeher: raises 2 to 46ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 48time2pokeher: raises 2 to 50ADDILAC299 said, "i will push you out"ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 52time2pokeher: raises 2 to 54ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 56time2pokeher: raises 2 to 58ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 60time2pokeher said, "you probably will"time2pokeher: raises 2 to 62ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 64time2pokeher: raises 2 to 66time2pokeher said, "but I have to make sure you got the balls to throw out that extra raise or 300 first"ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 68time2pokeher: raises 2 to 70ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 72time2pokeher: raises 2 to 74ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 76time2pokeher: raises 2 to 78ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 80time2pokeher: raises 2 to 82ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 84time2pokeher: raises 2 to 86ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 88time2pokeher: raises 2 to 90ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 92time2pokeher: raises 2 to 94ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 96time2pokeher: raises 2 to 98ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 100time2pokeher: raises 2 to 102ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 104time2pokeher: raises 2 to 106ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 108time2pokeher: raises 2 to 110ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 112time2pokeher: raises 2 to 114ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 116time2pokeher: raises 2 to 118ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 120time2pokeher: raises 2 to 122ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 124time2pokeher: raises 2 to 126ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 128time2pokeher: raises 2 to 130ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 132time2pokeher: raises 2 to 134ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 136time2pokeher: raises 2 to 138ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 140time2pokeher: raises 2 to 142ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 144time2pokeher: raises 2 to 146ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 148time2pokeher: raises 2 to 150ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 152time2pokeher: raises 2 to 154ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 156time2pokeher: raises 2 to 158ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 160time2pokeher: raises 2 to 162ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 164time2pokeher: raises 2 to 166ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 168time2pokeher: raises 2 to 170ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 172time2pokeher: raises 2 to 174ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 176time2pokeher: raises 2 to 178ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 180time2pokeher: raises 2 to 182ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 184time2pokeher: raises 2 to 186ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 188time2pokeher: raises 2 to 190ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 192time2pokeher: raises 2 to 194ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 196time2pokeher: raises 2 to 198ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 200time2pokeher: raises 2 to 202ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 204time2pokeher: raises 2 to 206ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 208time2pokeher: raises 2 to 210ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 212time2pokeher: raises 2 to 214ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 216time2pokeher: raises 2 to 218ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 220time2pokeher: raises 2 to 222ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 224time2pokeher: raises 2 to 226ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 228time2pokeher: raises 2 to 230ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 232time2pokeher: calls 2*** RIVER *** [Qh Qd 9h 2s] [5d]time2pokeher: bets 2ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 4time2pokeher: raises 2 to 6ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 8time2pokeher: raises 2 to 10ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 12time2pokeher: raises 2 to 14ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 16time2pokeher: raises 2 to 18ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 20time2pokeher: raises 2 to 22ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 24time2pokeher: raises 2 to 26ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 28time2pokeher: raises 2 to 30ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 32time2pokeher: raises 2 to 34ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 36time2pokeher: raises 2 to 38ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 40time2pokeher: raises 2 to 42ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 44time2pokeher: raises 2 to 46ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 48time2pokeher: raises 2 to 50ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 52time2pokeher: raises 2 to 54ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 56time2pokeher: raises 2 to 58ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 60time2pokeher: raises 2 to 62ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 64time2pokeher: raises 2 to 66ADDILAC299: raises 2 to 68time2pokeher: calls 2*** SHOW DOWN ***ADDILAC299: shows [6d Td] (a pair of Queens)time2pokeher: shows [8h Kh] (a pair of Queens - King kicker)time2pokeher collected 896 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 896 | Rake 0 Board [Qh Qd 9h 2s 5d]Seat 1: ADDILAC299 (button) (small blind) showed [6d Td] and lost with a pair of QueensSeat 2: time2pokeher (big blind) showed [8h Kh] and won (896) with a pair of Queens

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