scatory2 0 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Yeah I suggest you get that if your at the point where you focus on tells. Its called Read'em and Reap. Its not so much watching for poker actors as it is looking for microgestures. It goes way beyond weak means strong. Since reading it, this week I played 3 live 2 table sit n' goes. Results; 2nd, 1st, and 2nd. IT WORKS! Link to post Share on other sites
aucu 3 Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Keep hearing good things about this book, will have to get it now. Link to post Share on other sites
mark_999 0 Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 Keep hearing good things about this book, will have to get it now.Yea i hear this book is sopossed to be awsome Link to post Share on other sites
scatory 0 Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Also thanks to the book I was able to pick up on a low confidence gesture my opponent made after making a $50 buff at a pot with $100 in it already. I had medium pair, knew he was weak, the board was scary so I reraised him and he folded. Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Yeah I suggest you get that if your at the point where you focus on tells. Its called Read'em and Reap. Its not so much watching for poker actors as it is looking for microgestures. It goes way beyond weak means strong. Since reading it, this week I played 3 live 2 table sit n' goes. Results; 2nd, 1st, and 2nd. IT WORKS!As long as all that data took to collect, believe it or not, some people may still be skeptical. In fact, a lot of people may think three S&G cashes are pretty meaningless. Not me, though.And-but-still, the book is very good for what it is. Link to post Share on other sites
showstopper24 0 Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 this guy is awesome. I'm soon going to read it. Link to post Share on other sites
The_B00t 0 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I just bought a used copy today. I'm hoping it is good as everyone says it is. Link to post Share on other sites
psujohn 0 Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 It's an excellent book. One word of warning though. It's difficult to put into practice. Not because the info is hard to grasp/remember. If you're not accustomed to careful observation it's a difficult habit to pick up. I find myself able to observe carefully for only a few minutes and then I forget to continue (it's not yet a habit for me). Certainly worth the price of admission though and if you get good at it I suspect it can really revolutionize your game. Link to post Share on other sites
ThreeBet 0 Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 It's an excellent book. One word of warning though. It's difficult to put into practice. Not because the info is hard to grasp/remember. If you're not accustomed to careful observation it's a difficult habit to pick up. I find myself able to observe carefully for only a few minutes and then I forget to continue (it's not yet a habit for me). Certainly worth the price of admission though and if you get good at it I suspect it can really revolutionize your game.SSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Tell them the truth, the book sucks and no one should read it .... NO ONE! Link to post Share on other sites
slix777 0 Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Yah this is on my list but I'm readin Caro's first just cuz I'm old school like that heh.I wonder how easy it might be to do these tells intentionally. /laughs maniaclly Link to post Share on other sites
mjd 0 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 I just finished Navaro's book last night. It was excellent. Very reasonable suggestions and explanations which you can put to use immediately. Of course, you'll need to practice, but the concepts are easy to remember and you'll notice some tells and probably say 'duh' right off the top.As compared to Caro's book of Poker Tells, I think Caro is a much better writer. But, both books are excellent reads. Both are 'must reads' for live players. And, both are fun reads for casual hobbyists even if you only play online.-M Link to post Share on other sites
All_In 0 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 reading this on my train ride into work..very interesting...i noticed a text-book tell at a home game when an A flopped..i got so giddy i saw the obvious tell, i stopped watching him...the 3rd card on the flop completed his set...i wonder if i woulda spotted extreme strength when it hit... Link to post Share on other sites
Marchione 0 Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 when Phil hellmuth puts his name on something its safe to say its junk ~ HOWEVER in this cause I will say sorry phil ~ .an amazing product this book is soo good i might spend 129$ on the video !!! Link to post Share on other sites
ThreeBet 0 Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 God Damit!The book is crap and NO ONE SHOULD READ IT! In fact, I believe all copies should be burned so people won't waste their time with such drivel. Link to post Share on other sites
kkot 0 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 God Damit!The book is crap and NO ONE SHOULD READ IT! In fact, I believe all copies should be burned so people won't waste their time with such drivel.QFT.Except, I want to keep my copy. Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 It's a good book. A lot of the text is superfluous, especially Hellmuth's little essays on his greatness, but the photographs and description of the tells are great. It crushes Caro's Book of Tells.I find this little spiel on page 105 to be comic.Fig. 39. [standing player has AK. Sitting player has QQ. Flop is Q3K.]Some players will leap up with positive excitement when they see a good card that can help them turn their hand into a winner. Why, then, is this player standing? Did you note he was losing the hand from what you can observe in the picture? If you did, then you're already developing the observational skills necessary to read 'em and reap! (Many readers will just glance at the photo and not notice the discrepancy between what they're seeing and how the player is behaving. We hope you did!) What the picture doesn't show is the turn card, a king, which the dealer has just placed face-up beyond the border of the photo but easily spotted by the excited player. He is standing up, excited by the realization that he now holds trip kings against his opponent's three queens.So after a nice little patronizing passage about how we too can be observant, Navarro fails to note the sitting player's full house. Link to post Share on other sites
DCJ001 0 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 So after a nice little patronizing passage about how we too can be observant, Navarro fails to note the sitting player's full house.A few months ago, this observation was sent to Navarro Poker and this was their reply:Thank you for the time, and your excellent observation, to make the comment concerning the photo on p. 105. Of course, you are correct: when a king hits on fourth street it does make a full house for Joe's opponent (seated). However, please consider the hand in its total context. After the flop, Joe has basically three long-shot ways to win the hand: he can hit a straight with a runner-runner jack/ten, he can hit trip aces with runner-runner A,A or he can hit quads with a runner-runner king, king. This assumes, of course, that the opponent doesn't improve. If two blanks fall on fourth and fifth street, Joe's two kings will lose to his opponent's three queens. Now, when the king hits on fourth street it does give his opponent a full house, BUT it gives Joe more outs to win the hand on the river card. With three kings, he now can win with any ace (three outs) a king (one out) or a trey (three outs). He is excited because, even though the king flopping on fourth street has not put him ahead at this point in the hand, his OVERALL chances to win the hand have been dramatically increased with the river card still to come. This is why he is excited, and this is the reason he is now standing up. We will be clarifying this caption in the next printing of the book. Link to post Share on other sites
Doug 0 Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 I was going to buy this book until I read the last two posts. Link to post Share on other sites
FourFlusher 0 Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 I'll read it again, but, I was disappointed in it the first time through. Link to post Share on other sites
Doug 0 Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Well I just ordered this book. I am expecting some good information and to be a little dissapointed at the same time. I shall let you all know. Link to post Share on other sites
Doug 0 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 I thought this book was so good that I would double post! The information in the book is clearly layed out and of course isnt going to say things like "If the guy scratches his head, he has a 72 you insta-call" but the psychology and theory is pretty solid. I would recommend this book to pretty much everyone and think it is a must have. I am impressed and wasn't dissapointed at all. 9/10 for me. Link to post Share on other sites
sixhands 0 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 God Damit!The book is crap and NO ONE SHOULD READ IT! In fact, I believe all copies should be burned so people won't waste their time with such drivel.Looks like someone can't hide their tells and wants to try and stop people from noticing them Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 I read this book on the way to Reno and tried to implement the "don't give anything away" aspect, but I really had difficulty seeing the obvious tells of my opponents. Maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention, but I very rarely saw anything close to what the photos portray. Link to post Share on other sites
ThreeBet 0 Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 Looks like someone can't hide their tells and wants to try and stop people from noticing them LOL ... ya, you got me pegged, I'm nothing but a jiggling overflowing bunch o' tells! Link to post Share on other sites
sixhands 0 Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 LOL ... ya, you got me pegged, I'm nothing but a jiggling overflowing bunch o' tells!at least you're consistant, if you always jiggle they'll never spot when you have a monster Link to post Share on other sites
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