Zach6668 513 Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 So, I decided to play some 1/2 LHE, and then realized I was sitting at 2/4, and was too lazy to move...Villain is 29/12/3.3 over 34 hands.The last time he donked the flop was HU when I raised from the hijack, and he called in the BB. He had TP weak kicker.PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A , A . 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 3 folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.Flop: (8.50 SB) Q , T , 2 (4 players)BB bets, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.Turn: (7.25 BB) 5 (2 players)BB bets, Hero calls.River: (9.25 BB) T (2 players)BB bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 11.25 BB Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Looks ok to me, you're raising a non diamond turn right? Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 Looks ok to me, you're raising a non diamond turn right?Hadn't planned on it, the last time he donked, he had TP and then just called my raise, when I figured he was FOS, but he had a weak kicker. When he 3-bet, I really didn't think I was ahead at that point.Should I be raising a non-diamond turn? Raise/folding? Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Hadn't planned on it, the last time he donked, he had TP and then just called my raise, when I figured he was FOS, but he had a weak kicker. When he 3-bet, I really didn't think I was ahead at that point.Should I be raising a non-diamond turn? Raise/folding?Yea there's no way you can call a 3 bet but I might not be giving enough credit since it's 2/4, I'm honestly not sure. Link to post Share on other sites
Knight_Owl 0 Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Hadn't planned on it, the last time he donked, he had TP and then just called my raise, when I figured he was FOS, but he had a weak kicker. When he 3-bet, I really didn't think I was ahead at that point.Should I be raising a non-diamond turn? Raise/folding?I would cap flop and lead turn. I would only call 3 bets on flop if I plan on raising turn. also I'm baffled. zach you stated that villian donked off last time w/ tp weak kicker? Well...shouldn't we all agree according to the way villian played his hand previously that he would have tp weak kicker?just my 2 cents.btw how are the games @ ps? Link to post Share on other sites
TB17 0 Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 I only call the 3 bet if I C/R. I cap flop and then C/C if he leads out again. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 I would cap flop and lead turn. I would only call 3 bets on flop if I plan on raising turn. also I'm baffled. zach you stated that villian donked off last time w/ tp weak kicker? Well...shouldn't we all agree according to the way villian played his hand previously that he would have tp weak kicker?just my 2 cents.btw how are the games @ ps?he didn't 3-bet last time he donked with tpwk, he just called down after my raise. Link to post Share on other sites
CptCrunch 0 Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 I would have played it the same, but raising any non diamond, or queen turn. I have no idea what to do if villan 3 bets turn, I call down usually but i don't know if thats right. Also, this may make me sound like a huge donkey...but does anyone see value in raise/folding this diamond turn. If not against this player, what about a LAG with a super high show down%. I suck at full ring so i probably sound like a donkey but oh well. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted October 28, 2006 Author Share Posted October 28, 2006 I would have played it the same, but raising any non diamond, or queen turn. I have no idea what to do if villan 3 bets turn, I call down usually but i don't know if thats right. Also, this may make me sound like a huge donkey...but does anyone see value in raise/folding this diamond turn. If not against this player, what about a LAG with a super high show down%. I suck at full ring so i probably sound like a donkey but oh well.I think raise/folding is ok here, but definitely definitely not against a LAG. Against someone who is insanely straight forward maybe. Link to post Share on other sites
CoranMoran 0 Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 The only reason ever to not cap this flop is if you intend on raising a good turn card.So I raise any non-diamond turn.But I even raise the turn when the diamond does hit!!Who says this guy has the Flush?I'm more concerned about getting value out of him before the 4th Flush-card hits.I don't think we have nearly enough evidence yet to think he has anything more than Top-Pair here.If/when we do get more evidence, then we can slow down.--CM Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted November 1, 2006 Author Share Posted November 1, 2006 Agreed, CM.I think the best play is a cap flop, and if he leads the turn, call down. Good? Link to post Share on other sites
CoranMoran 0 Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Agreed, CM.I think the best play is a cap flop, and if he leads the turn, call down. Good?sounds good to me--cm Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 sounds good to me--cmPoker is easy with position. Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcCatcher 0 Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Poker is easy with position.I dont mind waiting until turn to raise(head up) I think you can fold to a 3-bet against this opponent pretty easily. I especially like it if he is making it it clear that he will donk top pair every time he flops it. if your behindyou are behind. He will have a hard time 3 betting with less than a flush and you can always revaluate on the river (free showdown if need be.0 Link to post Share on other sites
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