Hawk 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 That word is kind of a big pet peeve of mine, but I must say that sig is pretty amusing......nice work Honestly I agree.. that word is so played out. But its the best thing that describes him IMO.Push. AINEC.You really don't know anything about tournament strategy at all, do you?Youre right, I have no clue. Ive never played before... Id push all in preflop after a bunch of limpers have already called and hope they dont call my pathetic stack.. and when they do, I hope my 5's hold up. Link to post Share on other sites
GoCryWolfe 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Honestly I agree.. that word is so played out. But its the best thing that describes him IMO.Youre right, I have no clue. Ive never played before... Id push all in preflop after a bunch of limpers have already called and hope they dont call my pathetic stack.. and when they do, I hope my 5's hold up.You can't expect the General tards to be able to relate to strategy. My mistake for even bring it up. Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 The only thing that makes me sick is that everybody nowadays thinks they know how to play poker. Geez. Link to post Share on other sites
yergan 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Because he only had a pair of 5's. And yeah, you did the right thing..Im pretty sure he has a much better understanding of tournament strategy than you do. Search for his posts around WSOP time... Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Im pretty sure he has a much better understanding of tournament strategy than you do. Search for his posts around WSOP time...Alright already.. I never said anybody was a bad player.. get off my nuts already. Let this guy have his thread back. Geez. Link to post Share on other sites
SCS 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Honestly I agree.. that word is so played out. But its the best thing that describes him IMO.Youre right, I have no clue. Ive never played before... Id push all in preflop after a bunch of limpers have already called and hope they dont call my pathetic stack.. and when they do, I hope my 5's hold up.Actually, at this point, you want a call. Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Actually, at this point, you want a call.I dont think anybody ever actually wants to get called with pocket 5's. I could be wrong, but Id rather they fold and I take down a $600 dollar pot than risk losing all my chips in a attempt to triple up with my chances being so low. So in this case I wounldnt have pushed all in preflop because Im almost certain there would have been two callers. And they prolly would have checked it down to get rid of the "all in" guy. I would have either pushed all in before this hand.. or just checked the big blind after the two callers and saw a free flop.. if its rags, you can try pushing in there. Thats just my opinion. And Im done with this thread. Link to post Share on other sites
threeparrots 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Ummm, no. How do you not push pf there?MarkTwo fives pushes preflop, you don't think an amateur calls with AJ? Hmm... Link to post Share on other sites
Flushgarden 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 The guy didn't know he had the flush.If the guy doesn't know he has a flush, and the dealor doesn't know he has a flush, then in my book he doesn't have a flush. Link to post Share on other sites
arpinology 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 sounds like the dealer should be fired. or at least go throuhg another hand ranking seminar. hahasplits can be tricky but in that case it is not... a set loses to a flush in hold'em(im assuming thats what was played) Link to post Share on other sites
SCS 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Two fives pushes preflop, you don't think an amateur calls with AJ? Hmm...Let them call. We're ahead.Of course, we could just fold and wait for pocket aces. Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Because he only had a pair of 5's.Well, most tournament players are going to say to push here I think. For 2 reasons: He is almost for sure ahead here, and also this is the last hand he will have any fold equity. His raise will be to over 6X the bb. That isn't exactly easy for a limper to call. But even if they do, I wouldn't care because I'd be ok hoping my 50/50 holds up because I need the chips here. If you check/fold the flop, then fold your sb, you will be down to 4X the bb. So even doubling up there barely does you any good.This is pretty cut and dry in my mind. Already the OPs stack is lower than it should be. I would actually push any two cards if this exact situation came up. But I guess tourney strat should be left to another forum.Mark Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 OMG this is a question about ethics, who cares how he should have played the hand, nobody gets real strat advice in General. As I see it, rake that shit, it's your pot. I mean if it's a friendly freeroll then be nice, but if it's for $$$, what the hell, it's just another way of profiting off of your opponent's mistake. Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 A push would be mandatory if the OP was opening the pot, but from the big blind, I think you can go either way. You don't have much fold equity, and you're probably better off waiting for first-in vigorish to push.As far as the actual "dilemma" goes, I'd say if the other player can't read his hand, that's his fault. Now if he tables his hand, the dealer mucks it, and he says "no, I had a flush", you should probably give him the pot, but this is more of a gray area. If it was me, I honestly would have probably just gathered my chips.Well, no that's not true. Since it's a freeroll, I would have pointed out the mistake to be magnanimous, but if it was a decent buy-in tournament, I wouldn't have felt bad at all about keeping the pot. Link to post Share on other sites
WhatArunAA 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Because he only had a pair of 5's. And yeah, you did the right thing..lol.. this guy makes more in 1 week then you have made in your life... you should learn from good players, rather than try to show them up. Link to post Share on other sites
ForRealDD 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 tru dat.and welcome.decent 1st post.Guess I'm the only one that thought your avatar said "Need a tittie". Man I'm tired.... Link to post Share on other sites
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