Zach6668 513 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)MP2 ($123.90)MP3 ($94.50)Hero ($196.15)Button ($41.20)SB ($156.60)BB ($99)UTG ($138.80)UTG+1 ($84)MP1 ($97.65)Preflop: Hero is CO with Q , Q . UTG calls $1, UTG+1 raises to $4, 1 fold, MP2 calls $4, 1 fold, Hero raises to $15, 3 folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $11, MP2 calls $11.Flop: ($47.50) Q , T , 6 (3 players)UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $30, UTG+1 calls $30, MP2 calls $30.Turn: ($137.50) 7 (3 players)UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets $40, Hero calls $40, UTG+1 calls $39 (All-In).River: ($256.50) 9 (3 players, 1 all-in)MP2 checks, Hero checks.Final Pot: $256.50MP2 = 65/8/2.29 for 48 handsUTG+1 = 11/9.4/0.86 for 102 hands.Couple things. Bet size on the flop. Bigger?Turn call pretty standard, does anyone push?River I was just happy to go to showdown vs this guy, but in retrospect, I can't imagine what he checks the river with that beats me, but probably a lot that will call a bet.As always, please tear this apart.- Zach Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 I bet at least $50, maybe even $75 on the flop.Rest is ok, given the way it played out. Link to post Share on other sites
Mattnxtc 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)MP2 ($123.90)MP3 ($94.50)Hero ($196.15)Button ($41.20)SB ($156.60)BB ($99)UTG ($138.80)UTG+1 ($84)MP1 ($97.65)Preflop: Hero is CO with Q , Q . UTG calls $1, UTG+1 raises to $4, 1 fold, MP2 calls $4, 1 fold, Hero raises to $15, 3 folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $11, MP2 calls $11.Flop: ($47.50) Q , T , 6 (3 players)UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $30, UTG+1 calls $30, MP2 calls $30.Turn: ($137.50) 7 (3 players)UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets $40, Hero calls $40, UTG+1 calls $39 (All-In).River: ($256.50) 9 (3 players, 1 all-in)MP2 checks, Hero checks.Final Pot: $256.50MP2 = 65/8/2.29 for 48 handsUTG+1 = 11/9.4/0.86 for 102 hands.Couple things. Bet size on the flop. Bigger?Turn call pretty standard, does anyone push?River I was just happy to go to showdown vs this guy, but in retrospect, I can't imagine what he checks the river with that beats me, but probably a lot that will call a bet.As always, please tear this apart.- Zachits a pretty standard hand...i pot this flop..it is a big pot already and the board is somewhat dangerous...i really think the rest of the hand is standardI rarely overbet so i dont know about 75 on the flop...so i pot Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 7, 2006 Author Share Posted September 7, 2006 I bet at least $50, maybe even $75 on the flop.Rest is ok, given the way it played out.Flop bet seems small retrospectively, yeah.I'm always torn between getting action, and trying to take it down right there. Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Flop bet seems small retrospectively, yeah.I'm always torn between getting action, and trying to take it down right there.I am too, so I can understand where you're coming from.This is an extremely draw-heavy flop though, so taking this downis not a bad thing in this spot, that's why I said $75 for the flop bet. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 7, 2006 Author Share Posted September 7, 2006 I am too, so I can understand where you're coming from.This is an extremely draw-heavy flop though, so taking this downis not a bad thing in this spot, that's why I said $75 for the flop bet.Yeah, agreed.I lean towards pot bet though. Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan 1 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 The pots 3 way..I'm fine with the bet, although betting more 35-40 would be ok too.I don't like potting it. I never pot it...you have the best hand, the only case I have is "if" one has a draw, he's gonna call a pot bet..but you don't know that...it's just best to keep your bets similar in size regardless of your hand strength.I'd raise turn and call a push against that guys stats...as played, i bet the river.- Jordan Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 I don't hate the $30 flop bet I mean we want some action here right. As for the rest of the hand I play similar except I definitely definitely bet the river here. Link to post Share on other sites
caribstv 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 I don't hate the $30 flop bet I mean we want some action here right. As for the rest of the hand I play similar except I definitely definitely bet the river here.Very intertesting Hand..... Mp2 would like to know what he had to double call cold... Maybe 1010,99, KJ I doubt 98 may 98 Suited... Can u give any history of what has happen at this table before this hand came up?? Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 7, 2006 Author Share Posted September 7, 2006 Can u give any history of what has happen at this table before this hand came up??I was new.I really really really wish I had the read that I have now on these two.MP pulled the same move on me where he donked a scare card later, but since I saw what happened here, I easily called with TP in position, and then he check/called the river...lolFor the record, UTG+1 and K Kx, and the other guy had J9o...Good times.With the read I had, I either push the turn, or bet the river every time, but I didn't have it at the time, although, I managed to leave the table up 4 buyins, mostly from MP, and another guy who was donating. Link to post Share on other sites
benhoug 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 River I was just happy to go to showdown vs this guy, but in retrospect, I can't imagine what he checks the river with that beats me, but probably a lot that will call a bet.I used to fall into this trap quite often, but I've tried to change that in my game lately. I know this is a dangerous board for us, but is villian really going to call that much p/f w/ a hand that hurts us? He could have hearts, I doubt he beats us w/ a straight. Link to post Share on other sites
crankin 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 I don't mind the flop bet, but I'm with Jordan... make it more like $35 or so. I don't really like the turn, and I definitely don't like the river. Granted, the flush comes in on the turn (as does the gutter straight), but what hand that hits the flush is likely to call the re-raise pre-flop? The only hand that comes to mind is AK suited, but I just don't think you can be that afraid of it. I think you needed to raise the turn, or at the very least, bet the river.Before I read the the results, my feeling was that one person had either KK or AA, and the other had TT. I ended up being half-right. Link to post Share on other sites
DonkSlayer 1 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 I think a value bet would be tasty on the river. We might've been behind the all-iner so getting some more mobney out of MP2 would be good. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 I think a value bet would be tasty on the river. We might've been behind the all-iner so getting some more mobney out of MP2 would be good.That is what I thought of immediately after checking, and was one of my biggest concerns. Link to post Share on other sites
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